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Well the saga continues. Stuck a live shell with the projectile pulled into the chamber, pulled the trigger and nothing. I figured the tip of the firing pin was broke and it was. I guess its off to ebay to order one.
Are all the replacements the same? Thanks. Jim
ended up ordering a complete bolt to get the firing pin out of. hopefully it was the right decision. bolt assy was a 1908 set up.
Hopefully this is the last question I have on this gun.
I measured the barrel because the carbine is a short little thing. But the barrel is 16 inches long. Is that a regular length barrel for a src? I could email or text pics if anyone would like to see what this project looks like. Thx. Jim
Normally carbines have a 20″ barrel. Other lengths could be ordered though. Send me pics at [email protected]. I will post them for you.
thank you for offering to post the pictures, I just sent 9 pics, hopefully a few of them will show exactly what this carbine, rifle is. thank you again. jim
Finally, some pictures. Off topic (sorry) but I like the look of the metal and wood (forearm) condition on this carbine, though I prefer OBFMCB. Not everyone wants NIB.
thank you for posting the pics! hopefully the people that knows these rifles can tell us what this is. jim
jim mac said
thank you for posting the pics! hopefully the people that knows these rifles can tell us what this is. jim
It is a carbine that has a shorter than normal barrel. The stock is not the normal carbine stock.
does it look like a factory 16 inch barrel? or someone cut it down sometime in the past? would this be considered a saddle ring carbine with a 16 inch barrel? are these more rarer than a regular carbine? jim
The barrel looks to be longer than 16″, closer to 17″ if you measure the whole barrel not just the front portion.
measuring from the front of the trunnion? where you can see the barrel going into the reciever its 15″ to the front of the barrel. measure back to the bolt face its 16″ to the front of the barrel. jim
At this point you need to contact the Cody Firearms Museum and pay for a factory letter. It will tell what barrel length was supplied and if not it means it was built with a 20″ barrel. I am inclined to believe the 16″ barrel is original to the gun.
PLEASE read the article below this one about the 1927 gun and the ATF. This gun may fall into this category.
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Cody will not have any records for serial number 482094 other than a serialization date. For 1894’s, Cody will only have records for serial numbers under 354,000. To me, the front sight looks funky and has a blocky step where it meets the barrel–possibly dovetailed to the barrel rather than forged?
chuck, if you dont mind, I got a couple pics of the front sight . it does look added to the barrel but not dove tailed. jim
Compare the front sight to either of these:
http://www.merzantiques.com/product/w72-15-winchester-94-trapper/
http://www.merzantiques.com/product/w1433-winchester-1894-trapper/
Don
I read the post on the 1927 trapper. from my understanding that gun was basically a factory short (under 16″ ) rifle. since mine is 16″ I’m good to go in the eyes of the atf. jim
jim mac said
chuck, if you dont mind, I got a couple pics of the front sight . it does look added to the barrel but not dove tailed. jim
Here are 2 more pictures from Jim.
Also for my reference. What does the ATF say about short barrels, what lengths do they require to be registered?
Chuck said
Here are 2 more pictures from Jim.
Also for my reference. What does the ATF say about short barrels, what lengths do they require to be registered?
The Summer 2017 Winchester Collector magazine (pages 30 and 31) has an article covering this very subject. It also covers examples of how the front sights should look.
https://winchestercollector.org/magazines/201706/32/index.html
Don
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