April 15, 2005
Offline[email protected] said
LARRY RUSSELL said
Bert H. said
Vern,
I am not sure why you find the WW II serial numbering frustrating? Your statement…
“I understand the records are missing…”
is not accurate. There are surviving records for the entire duration of WW II. Furthermore, your statement…
“I know the Polishing Room records can be off by a couple of years.”
is also not accurate. The Polishing Room serialization records are not off at all. Instead, it is the DOM information published by past authors that is off by as much as four years.
In answer to your question(s)
Anyone out there done any serious research into War Time Records? Are there any recent books that address the issue?
Yes, I have completed a considerable amount of research in regards to this subject.
Serial number 1313055 was manufactured in late December of 1941. The last Model 94 manufactured before production was temporarily halted to support the War efforts was serial number 1343183 on 8/23/1942. Production was resumed on a full time basis on 9/24/1945, with serial number 1343271 listed as the last one made on that day. By 12/29/1945, serial numbers had reached 1352066. The annual production numbers were as follows;
1941 – 53,738
1942 – 29,882
1943 – 0
1944 – 13
1945 – 8,870
I wrote an article that appeared in the “WINCHESTER Collector” magazine several years ago that discussed the Model 1894/94 serialization/production. Additionally, I included the Model 1894/94 serializtion/production table in “The RED BOOK of WINCHESTER Values, 3rd Edition”, chapters 7 and 8.
Bert
I have a Winchester Model 94, serial number 1193367, and most of my research indicates the year of manufacture to be 1942, although one site differed and it claimed 1938. Seeing many different photos none have what mine does and that is what I call a leather shoulder strap. Do you still live in Washington? I reside in Wenatchee.
Seems I have it’s cousin. Sn 1198616
Which caliber is it? Per the factory records, it was manufactured in January 1939.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L

November 7, 2025
OfflineBert H. said
Vern,
I am not sure why you find the WW II serial numbering frustrating? Your statement…“I understand the records are missing…”
is not accurate. There are surviving records for the entire duration of WW II. Furthermore, your statement…
“I know the Polishing Room records can be off by a couple of years.”
is also not accurate. The Polishing Room serialization records are not off at all. Instead, it is the DOM information published by past authors that is off by as much as four years.
In answer to your question(s)Anyone out there done any serious research into War Time Records? Are there any recent books that address the issue?
Yes, I have completed a considerable amount of research in regards to this subject.
Serial number 1313055 was manufactured in late December of 1941. The last Model 94 manufactured before production was temporarily halted to support the War efforts was serial number 1343183 on 8/23/1942. Production was resumed on a full time basis on 9/24/1945, with serial number 1343271 listed as the last one made on that day. By 12/29/1945, serial numbers had reached 1352066. The annual production numbers were as follows;
1941 – 53,738
1942 – 29,882
1943 – 0
1944 – 13
1945 – 8,870
I wrote an article that appeared in the “WINCHESTER Collector” magazine several years ago that discussed the Model 1894/94 serialization/production. Additionally, I included the Model 1894/94 serializtion/production table in “The RED BOOK of WINCHESTER Values, 3rd Edition”, chapters 7 and 8.
Bert
Thanks for the information, I always just did a basic surch of my serial and thought the records were lost so my rifle could have been anywhere from 42-48. My serial is 1313891 so I’d place her around earl/mid 1942 for production. I was wondering thought if you would know what the numbers 1 and 2 found on some parts of my rifle. I was just disassembling her for a cleaning (definitely the most challenging disassembling I’ve done on a rifle) and found the numbers 1 and 2 on some parts shown in the pictures attached. Any clue to why they’re there/any meaning?
April 15, 2005
OfflineJohn058 said
Thanks for the information, I always just did a basic surch of my serial and thought the records were lost so my rifle could have been anywhere from 42-48. My serial is 1313891 so I’d place her around earl/mid 1942 for production. I was wondering thought if you would know what the numbers 1 and 2 found on some parts of my rifle. I was just disassembling her for a cleaning (definitely the most challenging disassembling I’ve done on a rifle) and found the numbers 1 and 2 on some parts shown in the pictures attached. Any clue to why they’re there/any meaning?
John,
Model 94 s/n 1313891 was manufactured in early January 1942. Many of the 30 caliber (30 W.C.F.) Carbines in that serial number range were exported to Canada to fill an order to supply the PCMR (military) contract. Is you Model 94 a 30 WCF?
I need to see the pictures of the markings on your Carbine to identify what they are.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L

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