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Unfortunately not. The only stamps (other than the Winchester Stamps) are an 85 just in front of the trigger and two small oval marks. One at the top of the base of the barrel and the other next to it on top of the receiver. Looks like maybe the person who fitted the barrel to the receiver at the factory?

 

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Mike McChesney said
Unfortunately not. The only stamps (other than the Winchester Stamps) are an 85 just in front of the trigger and two small oval marks. One at the top of the base of the barrel and the other next to it on top of the receiver. Looks like maybe the person who fitted the barrel to the receiver at the factory?

 

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Mike,

The stamped markings in the ovals are the Winchester Proof marks (a “W” superimposed over a “P”).  They were applied after the gun was fired with a 130% proof load and subsequently passed inspection.  They should be sharp and clear unless the gun has been refinished.

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Thanks Again. I have an unfired 1938 MosinNagant that looks like a modern art masterpiece. Looks like every single step of the assembly line “STAMP”. LOL There are people who have the names and positions of most (if not all) of the folks associated with their stamps. Its amazing. LOL I’ll post some pics tomorrow. 

 

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Lead Snowstorm said
Just picked up my first Winchester!  Needs a little TLC with some kroil and copper wool to knock down a smattering of surface rust.  The furniture seems a tad bit dry as well – if it were a US martial longarm I’d get a bit of tung oil on it, but perhaps there’s something better for Winchester wood?  Any opinions are most welcome!

On my guns that could use some TLC (not the valued collectors” items), I use some soapy water and 0000 steel wool to scrub the stock and then follow up with this: https://homesteadparts.com/shop/stock-oil-winchester-restorations-4-oz-p-1782.html   That’s obviously simplifying it a lot, wood care or finishing is a million-opinion business, but it was oil finish from the factory most likely.

If it just needs some moisture any furniture feed n’ wax will do the trick. I use Howard’s. Also check out Mark Novak’s YouTube series on “conservation”…great way to remove/convert red rust and preserve original finish.

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2725758 is the serial number on my model 94 32 special.   Ive looked it up online and it appears to br a 1964.  Is that correct? 

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2725758 is the serial number on my model 94 32 special.   Ive looked it up online and it appears to br a 1964.  Is that correct? 

Yes, that is the correct year of manufacture.  The year 1964 began with s/n 2700000.

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Michael Wildenborg said
Hi there, 

  I recently inherited a rather beat up Model 64 30WCF serial number 1095939 which according to the records indicates a production year of 1937. I’d like to try and restore it as best as possible but don’t know where to start. It is missing the forearm, the rear sight elevator and the stock looks home made to me as it’s really beat up and some of the angles look like they were whittled with a butter knife. Would you recommend a refurb to it or am I wasting efforts here? Any additional info you can provide as to what parts to source if it’s worth it would be appreciated. 

 

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Hello Michael,

For some reason or another your post got lost in the vast internet bit bucket for the past 10-days and it just now showed up in my Admin mailbox to review & approve.

In answer to your question, it will undoubtedly cost you more $$$$ to restore that rifle than it would ever be worth.  You will need a complete stock set which will most likely set you back at least $750.  I would set up a search on ebay for a stock set.

The serial number identifies it as a March 1935 production rifle.  The early production Model 64 rifles had an entirely different profile forend stock.

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Michael and Bert-

If the goal here is to restore the rifle to shooting condition and “original” appearance without breaking the bank, would the reproduction semi-inlet unfinished M64 stocks from precision gun stocks be appropriate?  Seems like stock and fore end are available for about $250…  Any experience with them?

https://www.precisiongunstocks.com/contents/en-us/d25.html

I know exactly NOTHING about whether these are accurate reproductions or not… But Bert would… Laugh

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Michael and Bert-

If the goal here is to restore the rifle to shooting condition and “original” appearance without breaking the bank, would the reproduction semi-inlet unfinished M64 stocks from precision gun stocks be appropriate?  Seems like stock and fore end are available for about $250…  Any experience with them?

https://www.precisiongunstocks.com/contents/en-us/d25.html

I know exactly NOTHING about whether these are accurate reproductions or not… But Bert would… Laugh

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Wow thanks for that link Lou, looks like it might be the right haystack for me to start searching! ? 

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Hi Michael-

Let’s see if Bert or one of the other experts weighs in… 

I know nothing at all about Winchester lever guns and have no experience with this stock maker.  I would like to hear what somebody might say about the product, as I have a “project” similar to yours in mind.  A “family” gun (M1892) with ZERO collector value that I’d like to put back into working order… 

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Michael Wildenborg said

Bert H. said

Michael Wildenborg said

Hi there, 

  I recently inherited a rather beat up Model 64 30WCF serial number 1095939 which according to the records indicates a production year of 1937. I’d like to try and restore it as best as possible but don’t know where to start. It is missing the forearm, the rear sight elevator and the stock looks home made to me as it’s really beat up and some of the angles look like they were whittled with a butter knife. Would you recommend a refurb to it or am I wasting efforts here? Any additional info you can provide as to what parts to source if it’s worth it would be appreciated. 

 

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Hello Michael,

For some reason or another your post got lost in the vast internet bit bucket for the past 10-days and it just now showed up in my Admin mailbox to review & approve.

In answer to your question, it will undoubtedly cost you more $$$$ to restore that rifle than it would ever be worth.  You will need a complete stock set which will most likely set you back at least $750.  I would set up a search on ebay for a stock set.

The serial number identifies it as a March 1935 production rifle.  The early production Model 64 rifles had an entirely different profile forend stock.

Bert

  

Thanks for the reply Bert, when you say the forend is different, do you mean that there are more than 1 type of forend for the model 64? 

Sorry if I’m being obtuse, just trying to clarify what type of needle to look for in that haystack! ;o) 

  

Yes, there were at least three different forend stock styles that Winchester used for the Model 64.  Yours would be the 1st type (style), which is the least common. 

The stocks offered by Precision are the last style (3rd style) and would not be correct on your Model 64 rifle.

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Louis Luttrell said
Hi Michael-

Let’s see if Bert or one of the other experts weighs in… 

I know nothing at all about Winchester lever guns and have no experience with this stock maker.  I would like to hear what somebody might say about the product, as I have a “project” similar to yours in mind.  A “family” gun (M1892) with ZERO collector value that I’d like to put back into working order… 

Lou

  

Lou, I’m no expert and about the time I make a recommendation it will come back to haunt me but I have purchased wood from this company 4 or 5 times to restore rifles.  The first time for a 92′ and the top tang was opened just a little too much and left a gap.  That was about 40 years ago when I think it was Columbia Precision.  I recently restored three 94’s and they were all good. Nice grain flow and no pin knots.  The wood is a little softer though and probably comes from the south.  Here’s one I did a couple of years ago

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Bert, I have a 94 with S/N: 3747595 and the Winchester site keeps saying date not found. IDK. Based on some similarity to S/N’s on here am I cloe guessing it was manufactured in or about 1970?rnShawn

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Bert, I have a 94 with S/N: 3747595 and the Winchester site keeps saying date not found. IDK. Based on some similarity to S/N’s on here am I cloe guessing it was manufactured in or about 1970?rnShawn

  

November 1907. 

Which caliber is it?  Is it a Carbine or a Rifle? What is the Patent date that is marked on the barrel?

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Michael Wildenborg said
Hi there, 

  I recently inherited a rather beat up Model 64 30WCF serial number 1095939 which according to the records indicates a production year of 1937. I’d like to try and restore it as best as possible but don’t know where to start. It is missing the forearm, the rear sight elevator and the stock looks home made to me as it’s really beat up and some of the angles look like they were whittled with a butter knife. Would you recommend a refurb to it or am I wasting efforts here? Any additional info you can provide as to what parts to source if it’s worth it would be appreciated. 

 

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Michael, what did you decide to do? I’d go for it at this point….resurrect that thing and shoot it!

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Bert, I have a 94 with S/N: 3747595 and the Winchester site keeps saying date not found. IDK. Based on some similarity to S/N’s on here am I cloe guessing it was manufactured in or about 1970?rnShawn

  

November 1907. 

Which caliber is it?  Is it a Carbine or a Rifle? What is the Patent date that is marked on the barrel?

Bert

  

you must have missed the last digit Bert, as a 3.7M range 94 is post63 (although I have no idea where to find a list of post63 serial numbers…)

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you must have missed the last digit Bert, as a 3.7M range 94 is post63 (although I have no idea where to find a list of post63 serial numbers…)

  

I’m betting he meant “1970” and not “1907” (if the OP was right on his 1970 estimate)

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Hi,

chasing details on serial numbers starting with “V” have come across one and cannot find a definitive answer anywhere, hoping this forum can help.

Barrell stamping indicates made in new haven, but can’t find any listing of the V prefix anywhere.

just wanting some context before I purchase.

Thanks in advance 

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Mark said
Hi,

chasing details on serial numbers starting with “V” have come across one and cannot find a definitive answer anywhere, hoping this forum can help.

Barrell stamping indicates made in new haven, but can’t find any listing of the V prefix anywhere.

just wanting some context before I purchase.

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There were no factory original Winchester Model 94s manufactured with a “V” prefix serial number.

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Mark said
Hi,

chasing details on serial numbers starting with “V” have come across one and cannot find a definitive answer anywhere, hoping this forum can help.

Barrell stamping indicates made in new haven, but can’t find any listing of the V prefix anywhere.

just wanting some context before I purchase.

Thanks in advance 

  

Sorry forgot to add its on a model 94

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