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a family friend recently sold me a Model 94 carbine that has been in their family since 1932.  It was gifted to the grandfather and put away.  Granddaughter decided to dig it out and sell as family is anti gun.

it is in the original box with original brochures.  Appears to have never had a shell inserted. Serial #1,085,XXX

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As a non WACA member, you will have to use a photo hosting service and then post the link to it. You can also send pictures to me, and I will post them for you.

What is the complete serial number? Does it have a front sight hood? Is the barrel marked “Nickel Steel” or “Proof Steel”?

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Serial 1,085,815. Proof Steel. Hooded sight

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Serial 1,085,815. Proof Steel. Hooded sight  

Which caliber is it?  I received the one picture you sent, but it does not have enough detail.  Do you have better pictures of it?  The serial number identifies it as being manufactured in August of 1932.  Do you know when exactly it was purchased?

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a family friend recently sold me a Model 94 carbine that has been in their family since 1932.  It was gifted to the grandfather and put away.  Granddaughter decided to dig it out and sell as family is anti gun.

it is in the original box with original brochures.  Appears to have never had a shell inserted. Serial #1,085,XXX

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Very interesting. I would like to see pictures of the box and end label, and brochures just to see what type box Winchester used for the model 94 in the early 30’s.

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  1. It is 32-40 cal.  I will take detail pics when home.
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It is 32-40 cal.  I will take detail pics when home.  

Are you sure?  By the year 1932, the 32-40 was very rare.  There were a lot of them made in 32 W.S. (Winchester Special).

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I do have label pic on my phone.  I will forward to Bert for posting. I do not have details of day it was purchased.

the box label is affixed to top of box. No other labels.

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I applogize.  It is 30WCF.  I had another carbine out today and it is 32-40.  (1913)

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send me your emails and I will try and answer any questions.

the picture posted can enlarge if tapped.

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I am new to this. Sorry.

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OK, here are the pictures that Bud sent to me;

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Looks like a Transitional to me. A little scarcer.  Big Larry

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Looks like a Transitional to me. A little scarcer.  Big Larry  

The “Transitional” Model 94 Carbines were manufactured from May 1932 through June 1937.  During that time period, approximately 28,000 Model 94s were manufactured.

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Would it be proper to ask what a reasonable value you would place on this model 94?

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Would it be proper to ask what a reasonable value you would place on this model 94?  

Sure.  In a well attended auction, it could easily hit the $3K mark.

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Bert H. said

The “Transitional” Model 94 Carbines were manufactured from May 1932 through June 1937.  During that time period, approximately 28,000 Model 94s were manufactured.

Bert  

Bert, I have a Transitional # 1100457, PR dated 1-25-1936. Has the Winchester 22-E rear sight, ramp front, and the old style carbine buttplate. The carbine is a good 99% and got it in a trade. It also has an early magazine tube with a cutout for  an early style carbine. What is the approximate value for one of these?   Thanks, Big Larry

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In regards to my “New in the Box 94”,

i have two observations I have neglected.  (I think my glasses need to be updated)

what I thought was a blem to the bluing of butt plate is the beginning of rust.  In the sun, I see it is brown in a large area.  I imagine the box was stood on end and acquired some moisture.  I am not sure how to remedy this.

also, the box end does have a label. ( I will attempt pictures of both) the four numbers on box label do not match serial.  Have I got the wrong box with this gun?

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Winchester typically put a 4-digit symbol # on the end labels to indicate the configuration of the rifle inside; I don’t know if yours is a 9412 or not.

 

The “Frontier Big 45 Pad” is the go-to product many people use to remove rust from blued steel. When used with a light oil and some elbow grease, it removes corrosion without removing the bluing. It cannot restore any lost bluing but will improve the situation.

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Thank you. I will look for that.IMG_2870.JPGImage Enlargerhope this is clearer

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