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December 18, 2023 - 3:25 pm
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We are in the process of selling a few pieces of my FILs collection, looking for some valuations and offers on a few guns,,,this one in particular is a Model 86 in 40 82 WCF with a low serial number of 5962.  Will be calling Cody this am for any documentation they have.  Gun functions properly,,,looks original as far as patina except top part of receiver slide as you can see in the photos.

Bore shows use, built in 1897 I’m thinking…appreciate any comments and or condition/value estimates,,,,,Shame to have to sell but an estate settlement.  If these guns could only talk…..IMG_0370.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0369.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0368.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0367.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0366.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0365.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0364.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0361.jpegImage Enlarger

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 According to the Forum your gun was made in 1887. It has the features of a first model,  extra screw in the top tang and square corners on the wood to metal fit of the upper tang at the receiver. I don’t like the rear sight or the crack in the lower tang across the screw hole. The scattered rust in the finish probably can be cleaned a little but not total removed. I would check the set trigger, if it doesn’t work it might takes real money to make it work.  The gun with it’s problems visible so far is not a turn off. That said a value can’t be set without more pictures.T/R

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Thanks TR,,,the trigger pull is smooth and fairly lite,,,I see a tiny screw by the trigger but don’t want to twist it off,,,not up too speed on these set triggers,,,,am sending more pics,,,please specify what you would need for additional pics,,ThanksIMG_0375.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0376.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0373.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0372.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0374.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0377.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0379.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0380.jpegImage Enlarger

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Hello Pat,

I replied to your request for information over on the GVB forum (before I found your request here).  Please add pictures showing the front sight, and both sides of the stocks (forend & butt stock) from a direct 90-degree side view.

The rear sight appears to be taken off of a Winchester Model 1903 22 rim fire S.L.R. 

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The little screw next to the trigger sets the amount of pressure it takes to set off the trigger.  You can carefully try to move it just to see if it is working or not.  BUT, do not force it.  Also, after cocking the trigger you should be able to move the trigger forward and it should lock into the set position.

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Bert H. said
Hello Pat,

I replied to your request for information over on the GVB forum (before I found your request here).  Please add pictures showing the front sight, and both sides of the stocks (forend & butt stock) from a direct 90-degree side view.

The rear sight appears to be taken off of a Winchester Model 1903 22 rim fire S.L.R. 

Bert

  

Thanks Bert,

More pics at GVB,,,but couple more here as wellIMG_0397.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0398.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0399.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0400.jpegImage Enlarger

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 Pat,

 The pictures should show both sides of the receiver, I’m looking for extra holes for non factory sights added and general condition. Also the barrel address and front sight area. T/R

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   Pat

 The flaws that affect the value of your gun are as I listed plus the file marks on the barrel. If no other flaws exist and a Cody letter reveals nothing other than  what I see now the value would be $1500-1700. The broken lower tang and the file marks on the barrel can be repaired but not cheaply. The trained eye will still see the repair. A rear sight would cost $175 and you would have to find one that matched the guns condition and color. Fixing it would not add anymore value than the cost. T/R

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Thanks T/R,,,

On the set trigger I can screw the screw OUT but once I screw it back in past where it was it gets hard to turn,,imagine threads are full of gunk,,

 

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Chuck said
The little screw next to the trigger sets the amount of pressure it takes to set off the trigger.  You can carefully try to move it just to see if it is working or not.  BUT, do not force it.  Also, after cocking the trigger you should be able to move the trigger forward and it should lock into the set position.

  

Thanks Chuck,,,I cannot get trigger to SET,,,,am able to screw screw OUT but cannot screw IN past where it was,,,threads are dirty….don’t want to break anything 

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