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I have a 16″ model 73 coming on a sale ,they say there is a letter coming ? ? But just looking not to get burned. Any words of advise and what to check out before the sale ? Several guns of interest but this one has my attention the most. Thanks for any Help
Hi Randy,
It sounds like you have bought the gun. Neat gun. I like Trappers. You should consider a CODY membership as you can request a survey of the gun before bidding. Hope this helps.
Walter
No have not bought it ! But auction is Saturday ,so not a lot of time to really check it out. How fast can the Cody group do a check ? Trying to read up on these in the Winchester Book to look for tips on what’s right and what’s not .
Randy,
I sent you a PM
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Randy,
My observations were right on, it does not letter! its not even a carbine. You should consider joining the Cody museum for $150 a year. This one gun deal would of cost you more than that. Think of it like getting a Carfax for a gun, you wouldn’t buy a used car without one.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1873 – SERIAL NUMBER 398421
Serial number applied on October 16, 1891
Type: Rifle
Caliber: 44
Barrel Type: Round
Trigger: Plain
Received in warehouse on October 20, 1891
Shipped from warehouse on November 04, 1891, Order number 14295
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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I think that is a great idea and looked into it last night. I think I will do it , planning on going to Cody gun show this year . Some of the benefits of membership is tickets into museum . Thanks for your help, this is why I joined this association. Randy
Randy,
When you get setup with Cody, Give them your WACA member number and that will get you 15 extra phone searches.
I’m posting a link to the gun so nobody else gets stung but I see they finally added the letter so they must know the gun is not right and I would hope the people that have bid on it already look again.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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I find it odd, that they posted the Cody letter and nobody picked up on the fact of what the letter clearly states. Or that there is no mention that the gun doesn’t match the letter.
-Maverick
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Too bad this gun doesn’t letter. Pictures aren’t good, but it sure looks like it’s an original trapper. Probably has the lower tang from another gun.
What I saw was the lower tang didn’t fit the gun and forearm is for a standard carbine not a 16″.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Bob,
A few years ago an old collector told me that there as many faked or restored Winchesters as Colt SSA’s. I thought no way. Today I believe him. Some buyers will not accept that the gun is wrong. I like Trappers and have studied the ones I have for 15 plus years. The pictures of the one in question are not very good. The front sight looks odd. Pull the tube and see how many cut marks. I would not buy for parts.
Walter
I see its up to $2000 now so there is still someone that thinks its right. I bet the winner will think he did good until he shows it to someone that knows how to read a Winchester letter and they explain the gun does not letter. There are beginning collectors that never seen a Cody Letter. I bought a my first 73 and didn’t know a thing about them.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
It just sold for $7500 Not kidding + 15% Proxibid , + Fees and taxes?
My initial thought was , I wonder if the High bidder at then prebid $1500 can legally renege now that it has been exposed ?
Phil
How long before the lucky winner posts on here wanting to know if he did good.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
1873man said
How long before the lucky winner posts on here wanting to know if he did good.
Bob
Bob,
The winner will most likely post a question on Gunbroker forum or the GVB forum… I have seen it happen a number of times before.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
This auction must have been attended by some unbelievably unknowledgeable buyers!!!!!!!! Her is a Model 92 with NO bluing left on it that sold for $2000!! You can see the brush marks on the receiver. Crazy prices. https://uk.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=6797&aid=93113&lid=24086326&title=Winchester-Model-1892-.25-20-Lever-Action-Saddle-Ring-Carbine-Very-Good-Overall-Condition-20-Barrel
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
I was watching the auction out of curiosity, and it was entertaining. While most things went fairly cheap , The odd good box of collector ammo went way up, and then at the end the Winchesters went for steep prices with the ‘Baby Carbine’ being the craziest. With the wild bidding that drove it up, I am surprised that there isnt the same gullible people bidding on the bad ‘Gunbroker’ online auctions
Phil
I have run into this before but at estate auctions. When you see someone with a blue book under their arm I might as well go home. The problem is they think every gun is mint and go by the prices in the book.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
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