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I am looking at a 1936 model 64 carbine in 32 WS. The receiver is handling/toting worn. What is it worth “as is”? Is it better to leave alone or refinish receiver? Is it a deduct to refinish? I have always taught it was. Rest of rifle is superior to that area. Thanks IMG_6371.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_6372.JPGImage Enlarger

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I would not refinish that.

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Leave it alone–don’t refinish.

I would venture a guess at 1,750.00/ for what its worth that’s what I would give for it!

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 Do not refinish.

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The Model 64 “Carbine” is not nearly as rare, or uncommon as published by some past authors.  Accordingly, they are not worth a large premium over a standard 24-inch Model 64 rifle.  Based on the caliber and condition, the Model 64 “carbine” in question is worth $1,200 – $1,500 in the current market.

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Thank you all for taking your time to reply. I am grateful for the wisdom shared. I am going to think on it. The rifle is priced within the range quoted here. I am a younger collector (40’s) and new member of WCA.- tommy

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Welcome to WACA Tommy.  You’ll learn a lot here.

I agree with the others as in I would not refinish it.  Also, I agree with the price range quoted by Bert.

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Thank you all for taking your time to reply. I am grateful for the wisdom shared. I am going to think on it. The rifle is priced within the range quoted here. I am a younger collector (40’s) and new member of WCA.- tommy  

Please send me (or post) the serial number so that I can add it to the research survey.

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Welcome to WACA, Tommy. I’d leave that gun just the way it is! I hope you’re a reloader and possibly a bullet caster as there are few better lever action shooters than this 64. It’s not a gun you’ll make money on but if you want a fun shooter you can take hunting I’d certainly think hard about it, especially if I could get the price closer to the $1000 mark. 

 

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I’ve killed plenty of deer and black bears with a 64. Recently sold a couple in .25-35. I’ll look for the serial numbers for the survey.

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As Bert stated above that carbines do not add significant value over standard 64s, any idea what a 64 carbine 25-35 in about 80% be valued at in today’s Market?

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As Bert stated above that carbines do not add significant value over standard 64s, any idea what a 64 carbine 25-35 in about 80% be valued at in today’s Market?  

The caliber does make a difference in the value, and in the case of the 25-35 WCF, it was the least common of the four standard calibers (less common than the 219 Zipper).  In my ongoing survey of the Model 64, I have documented 2,807 specimens with the following results;

Standard length rifles:  84.94%

20-inch rifles:  15.06%

30 WCF – 59.38%

32 WS – 26.45%

219 Zipper – 8.75%

25-35 WCF – 4.87%

In most cases, buyers are typically paying 2X (100% premium) for an otherwise identical Model 64 made in 25-35 WCF over the 30 WCF and 32 WS.  I believe that it is a realistic premium based on the total production numbers for the 25-35 WCF extrapolating to just 3,254 (all variations), with a 20-inch (carbine) Deer Rifle being the rarest variation.

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Bert H. said

The caliber does make a difference in the value, and in the case of the 25-35 WCF, it was the least common of the four standard calibers (less common than the 219 Zipper).  In my ongoing survey of the Model 64, I have documented 2,807 specimens with the following results;

Standard length rifles:  84.94%

20-inch rifles:  15.06%

30 WCF – 59.38%

32 WS – 26.45%

219 Zipper – 8.75%

25-35 WCF – 4.87%

In most cases, buyers are typically paying 2X (100% premium) for an otherwise identical Model 64 made in 25-35 WCF over the 30 WCF and 32 WS.  I believe that it is a realistic premium based on the total production numbers for the 25-35 WCF extrapolating to just 3,254 (all variations), with a 20-inch (carbine) Deer Rifle being the rarest variation.

Bert  

One of the .25-35 model 64’s I sold was #1374741. It had been reblued and new wood. Not a great job, but I got it for an o.k. price. I sold another earlier and will see if I can find the number for it somewhere. Both were standard length.

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I have a standard length .219 Zipper, BUT, it’s a Marlin. I love it and sometimes carry it out hunting.

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