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September 10, 2018 - 10:42 am
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When you look at the big picture–

It is kind of a statement as to how backwards our society is when there are folks who can spend a million dollars on a Winchester and yet wages have been stagnant in this country, mostly, for decades.  Trickle down economics clearly doesn’t work.

I am rethinking my earlier post in this thread.  Probably, the individual purchasing this already has a few stellar properties…

I guess, if that was the case…why not a few really high dollar Winchesters?

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One can be pretty sure that it wasn’t the new owner’s last million $’s….

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Guys,

  And think about it.  There were two in the room with the money to chase it over the million dollar mark!  Might have been another one or two that didn’t get into the act.  Not my league for sure!

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Bert H. said
The only thing that comes to my mind is Holy C**p!!
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Mind-boggling for sure. 

 

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I guess the “trickle down” is that your ’86’s may have just gone up in value.  (?)

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I guess the “trickle down” is that your ’86’s may have just gone up in value.  (?)  

Seems it would raise the average sale price a bit. Wink

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FromTheWoods said
I guess the “trickle down” is that your ’86’s may have just gone up in value.  (?)  

LOL…that’s a good one.

When you think about it, this actually reflects society as a whole.  Rifles such as this are synonymous with Buffett/Gates/Bezos/Zuckerman.  Value/net worth increases exponentially.  The Winchester with condition, maybe a few features, is like the upper middle class.  Holding its own, maybe a modest increase in value/worth.  The Winchester that is a brown gun, plain Jane model is like the lower middle class, decreasing net worth/value. With no hope to see any increase in value.

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 Look at the bright side, you can own and shoot one like it for less than $10,000. Maybe not engraved, minty, or in the same caliber but just as much fun to shoot. He won’t shoot his. The more worn the gun is the more history it has. T/R

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Wouldn’t it be nice to think that the new owner might be someone who loves firearms and has a collection of nice collector/shooter guns and this will be the pinnacle of his/her collection?

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I would bet that this 1886 will be displayed on a wall near a Picasso painting.

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Beautiful 1886, even though the Ulrich engraving on the receiver looks a bit amateurish IMO. 

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Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

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Ulrich’s engraving style of animals does have a slightly whimsical character about them. Takes a while to get used to it, it grows on you. Ulrich’s sons work later on did show the same style, it is more straight realism. I have a Model 12 with factory No. 5 engraving. Blessed by Pauline but unmistakable once you study his work.

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Ulrich’s engraving style of animals does have a slightly whimsical character about them. Takes a while to get used to it, it grows on you. Ulrich’s sons work later on did show the same style, it is more straight realism. I have a Model 12 with factory No. 5 engraving. Blessed by Pauline but unmistakable once you study his work.  

I think the bear has a whimsical look on his face – he appears to be laughing.

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steve004 said

I think the bear has a whimsical look on his face – he appears to be laughing.  

Maybe the hunter ran out of ammo. The bear is now mocking him before he lunches on a hound. 

I’d be laughing too. If I were the bear, that is. 

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I am not sure where RI gets these buyers.  A few years ago this gun was being shopped around for 300 K.  It did sell sometime later for 500K. I know the guy that bought it at 500K.  At some point he sold his entire collection to RI.  I am not sure if this gun was still in his collection at the time?

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I am not sure where RI gets these buyers.  A few years ago this gun was being shopped around for 300 K.  It did sell sometime later for 500K. I know the guy that bought it at 500K.  At some point he sold his entire collection to RI.  I am not sure if this gun was still in his collection at the time?  

RI states that it came from the Mac McCroskie collection this time around.  Is that the guy?

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I wonder if Leroy will have an easier time of selling this one, now:

https://merzantiques.com/product/w2312-fantastic-factory-engraved-gold-inlaid-winchester-model-1886-light-weight-rifle/

I will say there’s an aspect or two of this rifle I don’t care for.  But less than a quarter the price of the rifle under discussion, plus NO juice!

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I suspect this is the only M1886 that sold for more than the rifle under discussion?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/67/1025/world-record-winchester-1886-serial-1-presented-to-capt-lawton

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While we discussing high dollar M1886’s, the Dodge rifle is worthy of mention.  I recall seeing photos of it but can’t find them now.  Anyone have a link?

Here’s some discussion of the rifle and price it fetched at Cowan’s in 2009.  I see Jack Puglisi bought it and I know he died in 2011.  I have no idea if it stayed in his family.  I know his gun shop remains open (in Duluth, MN), operated by his son.  Anyone know if the gun surfaced after it sold at Cowan’s?

https://www.outdoornews.com/2009/05/21/1886-winchester-rifle-nets-450k-at-cincinnati-auction/

I see Puglisi bought another very expensive firearm two years before he won the M1886:

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/2246999-duluthian-buys-czars-gun

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steve004 said
I suspect this is the only M1886 that sold for more than the rifle under discussion?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/67/1025/world-record-winchester-1886-serial-1-presented-to-capt-lawton  

I find this one much more appealing, both for it’s historical significance the and the rifle itself. 

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Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

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