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On October 22, 2016, the Springfield Armory Alliance (Friends Group to the Springfield Armory National Historic Site) will be sponsoring a morning seminar concerning the 80th Anniversary of the M1 Garand Rifle. Noted author Bruce Canfield will speak about the design and adoption of the M1 Rifle by the United States Army. Springfield Armory Museum Curator and author of the Images of America, Springfield Armory, Alex Mackenzie, will give a “virtual” tour of the Springfield Armory facilities used to design and manufacture it. Program registration starts at 8:15 and program begins at 09:15 at the Springfield Armory National Historic Site, 1 Armory Square, Springfield, MA 01105. A book signing by the presenters will be held after the presentations in the museum gift shop. The program costs $15.00 and is made possible by a grant from the Smith & Wesson Corporation. Parking is free.
Thanks for the heads-up! I wish I could make it to the presentation but I have other commitments that week. I appreciate the M1 Garand reference as a lot of guys do not focus on Winchester’s firearm contributions to the U.S., including the Pattern 1914 and 1917 of WWI, the M1 Garand and M1 carbine of WWII and the M14 during Vietnam (amongst many other significant wartime items).
Thanks for giving us here at WACA the information!
Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Following JWA, does anyone have any data on Winchester’s M14 production. They made 356,000 rifles, but unknown info on parts and mags. How long were they in production, etc.
Would have loved to hear Canfield speak.
JWA said
Thanks for the heads-up! I wish I could make it to the presentation but I have other commitments that week. I appreciate the M1 Garand reference as a lot of guys do not focus on Winchester’s firearm contributions to the U.S., including the Pattern 1914 and 1917 of WWI, the M1 Garand and M1 carbine of WWII and the M14 during Vietnam (amongst many other significant wartime items).Thanks for giving us here at WACA the information!
Regards,
Trenchguns!! Do not forget the Trenchguns. Big Larry
Big Larry said
Trenchguns!! Do not forget the Trenchguns. Big Larry
Model 1897 Riot and Trench Guns, Model 1912 Riot and Trench Guns, Model 97 Riot and Trench Guns, and Model 12 Riot and Trench Guns to be more precise.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Model 1897 Riot and Trench Guns, Model 1912 Riot and Trench Guns, Model 97 Riot and Trench Guns, and Model 12 Riot and Trench Guns to be more precise.
Bert
Bert, I think the Trenchguns have a bigger following although much scarcer than Riots. Finding either that has not been messed with is a problem anymore. This also holds true for just about any US military weapon. Seems like all the good stuff has gone to collections. Big Larry
Big Larry said
Bert, I think the Trenchguns have a bigger following although much scarcer than Riots. Finding either that has not been messed with is a problem anymore. This also holds true for just about any US military weapon. Seems like all the good stuff has gone to collections. Big Larry
Larry,
I am going to respectfully disagree with you again. Specifically, the neither the WW I or WW II Trench Guns are “much scarcer than Riots”… in fact, the exact opposite is true.
In my research survey of the Model 1897/97 (which I have been working on for nearly 20-years), the numbers are as follows;
WW I
Riot Guns = 22 – 19.6%
Trench Guns = 90 – 80.4%
WW II
Riot Guns = 38 – 21.2%
Trench Guns = 141 – 78.8%
Total
Riot Guns = 60 – 20.6%
Trench Guns = 231 – 79.4%
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I found in my years of collecting US Martial Arms the Trenchguns to be more prevalent. You are correct. I just wrote it down before I had my brain in gear.
Over the years, I have had most all US Shotguns of both types. With the exception of the Rem. M10, I pretty much had them all including a very nice WW2 M37 Ithaca Trenchgun, the pride of my collection. Later years brought me a drippy mint, US marked WW1 M1897 Trenchgun, probably the nicest one in existence. Came from a big, well known collection. Had already sold most of my militaria off, so this one went bye, bye too. As old as I am, I do make a few mistakes at times and my memory is not all that good anymore. Good to have you there to keep me honest. Thanks, Big Larry
That makes sense about the riot guns, Bert. Remember back to the red line brigs, the guards and their riot guns, the Marine prisoners and their incredible brig-step marching while a platoon in column, and their chow hall routines, to include, their prisoner break drills, bring back some long ago memories.
James
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