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Looking for information on Hotchkiss 3rd model cleaning rod.
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I bought a US martially marked 3rd model Hotchkiss musket today at the local shop.  It is a mostly gray gun with an excellent bore but it is missing the cleaning rod.  I doubt I will be able to find  an original but at this point I wouldn’t know one If it bit me on the ankle. I would appreciate any information on these rods (length, dia., photos of the ends etc.).  It would also be good to know if there is a source for a replacement or a workable substitute.  Thanks in advance for any information.  

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I am sure there are a few who could answer your questions, but I believe the man your looking for is Jim Curlovic. I am not sure if you can look him up as a guest or not.

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I am sure there are a few who could answer your questions, but I believe the man your looking for is Jim Curlovic. I am not sure if you can look him up as a guest or not.  

Thanks.  I got in touch with Jim about my questions.

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So what did you find out?

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Hi Morgan. I dig up this old thread, but maybe you didn’t get any answer.

My Winchester-Hotchkiss M1879 has the same cleaning rod than the Springfield Trapdoor, but of the late model (trumpet-shaped end). Logically, I thought that the M1883 has the same cleaning rod, but its seems that I was wrong.

The M1883 rifle has also a M1873 Trapdoor cleaning rod, but oddly of the early model (Enfield style end)

https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/09/04/64/86/22520110.jpg

https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/09/04/64/86/captur10.jpg

You can find a good repro here :

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/4911/category/460/category_chain/392,439,440,460/product_name/RP0900+5070+Springfield+Trapdoor+Ramrod

Hope it helps.

François

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