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October 7, 2018 - 1:29 am
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This carbine contains a receiver dating from 1906 that has been reblued and this earlier receiver was used to fabricate this gun using later components.  The asking price is approximately five times actual value.

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Don,

It is my opinion that is a completely reworked & refinished SRC. The barrel & caliber marking are the style introduced in late 1950.

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Thanks guys.  It would be a real oddity of the story were true.  No wear on the receiver from the saddle ring supports your observations of a refinish.

Don

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i have to say I don’t find it mysterious, interesting or baffling.  A reblued older receiver with newer parts installed.  This has been done thousands of times.  Likely more so on 94 carbines than any other rifle.  The story is pure conjecture/fantasy.  I’m surprised as this is an experienced seller.  Actually, I do find something mysterious and baffling here – just who are these, “very astute M1894 collectors” he is referring to? 

Let me add, an experienced dealer would pay about 1/5th the asking price for this piece.  This is the usual fishing expedition in search of the big payday.

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We all know P T Barnum was right. It bothers me that some sellers on the firearms marketing sites I enjoy watching continue to prove “there’s a sucker born every minute”. Some of the stories are quite entertaining but the sad fact is they must work every now and then or the dishonest sellers wouldn’t write them.

 

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There are many ways to show this gun is recently made outside the factory. It is also a good example of non-matching PW barrel/receiver proofs. Look at his picture 8 and you will easily see that the proofs don’t match. Further proving the point. Non matching proofs is another good tool for the collector in evaluating other examples that are not so glaring of switched barrels.

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Another view that really disturbs the purist is the non provable rumor that Winchester would refinish and re-barrel your used gun in the late 1930s thru the 1950s.  Money was tight and Winchester offered the service to those who could not afford a new Winchester.  I have several of these disputable firearms.  I am not bothered by the fact I can not prove Winchester positively did redo these guns.  There is no positive proof that they did not refinish the guns either! Refinished is refinished!   But, the refinish is equal to the best restoration now available.  I am posting a couple of pictures of 4 92s.   The top gun is .218 Bee caliber and has been closely inspected by respected current experts who concluded it was part of a small number made in the 1950s with model 43 barrels.  The 2nd from top is a 25-20 pictured in the Madis Books and purchased in the late 80s or early 90s from the then President of WACA David Bichrest.  The third one down with the half magazine is 44 WCF.  The bottom gun is 25-20 and has a bolt peep sight.  All are in excellent condition and I feel blessed to have them.  Besides, where are you gonna get another one?  Be very careful of what you buy!  If you make a poor decision, be sure you can live with it.  I buy what I like and I accept my mistakes and use them as learning tools.  And the purist wouldn’t touch them with a 10 foot pole.  RDB

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