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July 11, 2023 - 11:48 pm
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As an engraver I am usually looking for good project guns. I recently bought a 1892 that had perfect metal, good wood and sometime ago nicely refinished. All I need is good metal for my canvas as it will always be restocked.

when n I got home I noticed something very interesting. It has an 1873 butt plate with the sliding brass door and the stock is machined for it..has anyone ever seen this before on a 92. It is to my eyes factory installed

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July 11, 2023 - 11:50 pm
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The rifle is a semi deluxe pistol grip, 44wcf Oct barrel full mag. Pretty gun to do up

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July 12, 2023 - 1:02 am
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Don’t find trap plates listed among options available for all rifles, but customer requesting one would probably be obliged for a slight extra charge.  To PROVE it was factory would require letter from Cody Museum.

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July 15, 2023 - 11:59 am
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What is the serial number range of this ’92?

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July 15, 2023 - 11:59 pm
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The ser number is 478319

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MartyR said
The ser number is 478319

  

That is too late in production for a factory letter from the Cody Museum so that option is not possible.  If you will send me a series of photos I will be happy to attach them to this thread and add the gun into my research survey.  The reap door option was certainly available for the Model 1892 though it is not commonly found on these rifles.

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July 16, 2023 - 11:09 am
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sure  I can do that   just need an address  thanks

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MartyR said
sure  I can do that   just need an address  thanks

  

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July 16, 2023 - 12:19 pm
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pictures sent

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July 16, 2023 - 1:23 pm
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Here are the images.  I have a few worries as to the originality of the butt stock to the gun and the receiver finish.

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I have similar concerns as Michael has.  When you add it all up, I think a M1894 rifle buttstock has been placed on that rifle.  

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twobit said
Here are the images.  I have a few worries as to the originality of the butt stock to the gun and the receiver finish.

92-butt-plate.jpegImage Enlarger92-left-side.jpegImage Enlarger92-proofs.jpegImage Enlarger92-right-side.jpegImage Enlarger92-stock.jpegImage Enlarger

 

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parts gun in my opinion – look at the photo of the loading gate side of the receiver and note the very, very poor wood to metal fit. This gun did not leave the factory like this. Here is an example of the same area of a 92 with original and correct wood to metal fit – draw your own conclusion.

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Geez Burt once again you have displayed a beautiful rifle. 

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Guys

You are probably correct. Either way it was cheap enough and all I need was a canvas to engrave. So price wise and metal conditon wise it suites my needs  I would never do this to a gun with much original condition.  after all I am a collector also

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MartyR said
Guys

You are probably correct. Either way it was cheap enough and all I need was a canvas to engrave. So price wise and metal conditon wise it suites my needs  I would never do this to a gun with much original condition.  after all I am a collector also

  

I also recall you mentioned the rifle is going to get new wood anyway.

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July 16, 2023 - 10:26 pm
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I do have a very nice piece of wood to make a new stock for it. I will however save the butt plate for a 73 and put a regular 92 crescent plate on it 

Thanks guys for your insight

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I have a nice model 1892 takedown antique that letters with “Rod in Butt”

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tionesta1 said
I have a nice model 1892 takedown antique that letters with “Rod in Butt”

See pictures,

Al

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Al – you are right about it being nice – best caliber, highly sought after configuration, antique and with condition – then, the cleaning rod and verificaton of the features puts it over the top. 

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July 17, 2023 - 10:34 am
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Beautiful rifle and great seeing the rod in butt verification 

as an aside..my butt stock fits very nicely until you tighten the tang screw. Then it seems to slide back a bit. But either way it will be upgraded.  Thanks for some great insight and discussions. It’s always a learning experience 

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Burt Humphrey said

tionesta1 said

I have a nice model 1892 takedown antique that letters with “Rod in Butt”

See pictures,

Al

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Al – you are right about it being nice – best caliber, highly sought after configuration, antique and with condition – then, the cleaning rod and verificaton of the features puts it over the top. 

  

Thanks Burt,

You’re 1892 Deluxe is very impressive, and rare.

Al

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