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Hey all,
I’m trying to get some ballpark valuations for two collectors pieces I have.
The first is a 94/95 Hybrid with the rarer 21.5″ barrel. Condition, restored, like new.
The second takes a little more description. It’s a 62A that has been re-barreled with an 1890 round barrel in .22LR. This belonged to the “5 Spot” shooting gallery. Mechanically it’s tight as can be, bore is perfect and she shoots lights out. The finish on the receiver is mostly gone and both the receiver and magazine tube were painted at some point (makes sense for a shooting gallery). So it’s hard to describe exactly the overall condition. It looks used, but shoots like a new gun…But it’s C O O L !!
So I’m just trying to gauge the price range for these two odd ducks because I know that’s the best I can do without taking them both to auction. So EXPERTS…Any ideas?
Your Model 94/95 hybrid appears to be the rare Type 3 variation. Please send pictures of it to me at – [email protected]
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi DarkLord,
The 5-spot marked rifles have been bringing a premium lately. A very nice one sold at RIA for $3000+. Yours however has some significant condition issues with the replaced barrel, bluing wear and paint. Based on the single photo it probably has a value in the $800-$1000 range. For insurance purposes you should always go with the higher number in the range. Hope that helps.
Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
JWA said
Hi DarkLord,The 5-spot marked rifles have been bringing a premium lately. A very nice one sold at RIA for $3000+. Yours however has some significant condition issues with the replaced barrel, bluing wear and paint. Based on the single photo it probably has a value in the $800-$1000 range. For insurance purposes you should always go with the higher number in the range. Hope that helps.
Regards,
Thanks, your assessment makes sense. I’m confident all the condition issues came from 5 Spot and the rifle is as it was on it’s last day of gallery service. To me, I find it more interesting than a “perfect” one because this one tells a story of some hard service, yet the rifle is tight as can be. It’s one of my favorite shooters.
I had a conversation with Art Gogan, the many who first wrote about the 94/95 Hybrid’s around 2003-ish IIRC. He related his findings, and at that time the 94/95 Hybrid’s were still pretty rate (34 20″ had been identified, and 10 21.5″). Since then, Bert has documented many more, and has a good idea of how many are actually out there (2,900+), so they’re not nearly as rare as they were a couple of decades ago. I got a very fat offer from George Madis at one point; he wanted to buy on behalf of one of his customers. But the rifle has sentimental value to me so it’s never for sale.
DarkLord said
I had a conversation with Art Gogan, the many who first wrote about the 94/95 Hybrid’s around 2003-ish IIRC. He related his findings, and at that time the 94/95 Hybrid’s were still pretty rate (34 20″ had been identified, and 10 21.5″). Since then, Bert has documented many more, and has a good idea of how many are actually out there (2,900+), so they’re not nearly as rare as they were a couple of decades ago. I got a very fat offer from George Madis at one point; he wanted to buy on behalf of one of his customers. But the rifle has sentimental value to me so it’s never for sale.So now that the value of my rifle has basically dropped by a factor of around 6x; I’m actually pretty happy (monetary value of this rifle means ZERO to me)…I think I’ll go back to shooting the crap out of it. And since the finish isn’t original, I may just go ahead and customize it with a CCH finish on the reciever (jury’s still out on that one…we’ll see).
Due to a recent discovery by one of our fellow WACA members, there were just 1,303 of these model 94/95 hybrid carbines produced. See below link.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/94s-with-94-95-hybrid-barrels-total/
Don
Man Ya’ll are good! Thanks so much for all the info; I’m just the kind of geek who eats it up.
Don,
I do not believe (at least at this time) that the 1,303 number is set in stone, as at least one 94/95 hybrid was manufactured in November 1928, and would not have been accounted for as of October 1928. Only time will tell as more of them are found and identified.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
That’s a good point Bert. I was thinking these were all manufactured in October 1928.
If I may be so bold to inquire… (Patience with me please, I’m WAAAY behind the curve on these rifles).
Do we know when these rifles were shipped? The “story” my grandfather gave me was he bought his day after Christmas 1929…But I’ll be honest, right around those times my grandfather ran a very large still, and was quite known to sample his own product:).
Just wondering if the records match the story.
DarkLord said
If I may be so bold to inquire… (Patience with me please, I’m WAAAY behind the curve on these rifles).Do we know when these rifles were shipped? The “story” my grandfather gave me was he bought his day after Christmas 1929…But I’ll be honest, right around those times my grandfather ran a very large still, and was quite known to sample his own product:).
Just wondering if the records match the story.
No, unfortunately those records did not survive. That stated, it would not be a stretch of the imagination to believe your grandfather’s recollection of when he bought it.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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