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… been able to land one that was all three? Who here has them all? I’d be happy to just hear of some sightings.
Well Steve, it’s like this.
Now that you have mentioned it, Give it about 3 weeks,
you will probably, see one for sale on Gun Broker,
I’m sure, a favorite seller of this site, has one stashed away with the box and all the paper work.
Ok back to reality,
If you want to see a few,
Get out your Winchester Big Book,
go to page 326 & 329 and see the pictures of them and read the captions.
"I Would Have Rather Lived Through The Industrial Revaluation"
"Instead of The Space Age"
From
The Twilight Zone
Pages 332 and 335 in my version of the Big Book. When I purchased the book many decades ago, I think I stared at the pictures of these two carbines for long periods. In fact, that is probably the point at which I became aware it was possible to have a .33 in a carbine. Was there any point where the .33 was a cataloged item in a carbine? Did they carry a supply of .33 carbine barrels on hand? I know my 1916 catalog reprint is clear on the matter – the ’86 carbine was available in all calibers except the .33. Has there ever been a survey of the factory ledgers determining how many .33 carbines are listed? And finally, I wonder where the two listed in the Big Book are now?
I really like the short magazine carbine pictured. It is a late one and I understand any carbine this late is rare. It is also rare for a late carbine to have a saddle ring. The long Lyman sight is rare on a carbine – and particularly unusual given a ring is also present. And of course a short magazine on a carbine is rare. I would love to know the story of whoever ordered this piece. They surely knew exactly what they wanted. I’ve read that by the time this carbine would have been ordered, Winchester was discouraging special orders. You would think given the caliber desired (in a carbine) this must have brought a frown to someone’s face at the factory. I am also intrigued as to why the purchaser wanted the ring retained. What purpose?
And finally, what a set-up for deep north woods deer hunting!
I really don’t need the box and paperwork for it 😉
Deer hunting opens early November – can I have it by then?
November 7, 2015
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I’m wondering if the 33WCF ammunition available at the time performed poorly in the shorter tubes. Good luck on your quest, sounds like fun.
TXGunNut said
I’m wondering if the 33WCF ammunition available at the time performed poorly in the shorter tubes. Good luck on your quest, sounds like fun.
Now that I’ve let loose your interest in a .33, it sounds like if one of the SRC’s comes along, I just might find you standing in line, in front of me! 😉
That’s an interesting question about how .33 ammo performed in shorter barrels. I suspect that so few carbines were made that virtually no one found out.
Since the 33 WCF was generally only offered in the shorter / lightweight rifles, perhaps Winchester saw no need for the carbine version. The “old” standard model 1886’s were 9+ lbs. making it necessary for Winchester to offer a lighter weight carbine version. Just my educated guess on the subject.
Don
November 7, 2015
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steve004 said
Now that I’ve let loose your interest in a .33, it sounds like if one of the SRC’s comes along, I just might find you standing in line, in front of me! 😉
(snip)
No worries, Steve, I’ll just bird-dog it for you. I’m not much on carbines and I have more projects than I can shake a stick at right now.
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