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August 10, 2024 - 4:46 pm
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On standard Winchester 1894 octagon barreled rifles, is there a difference on the front sight in relation to caliber? I need an original front sight for a 1907 made 1894 octagon barreled rifle chambered in 25-35.         RRM

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Yes, there was a difference in the height of the front sight depending on the specific cartridge that the rifle was chambered for, and in the case of the 32-40 and 38-55, if the rifle was ordered for the WHV load.  It is my understanding that the same sight was used for the 25-35 WCF, 30 WCF, and later the 32 WS.

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Thanks Bert. I was hoping the 30 WCF was the same. Should make it a little bit easier to find one that way.  See ya,  RRM

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According to the January 1917 Winchester “Standard Sight Equipment” book that Pauline Muerrle had reprinted, octagon barreled M94 rifles in 25-35, 30 WCF, and 32 WS, all used the 21C front sight paired with a 22B rear sight and 1B elevator.  That is to say, Bert’s right!!! LaughLaughLaugh The 21C drawing shows an overall height of 0.381″ from bottom of dovetail to top of sight blade.

BTW… Pauline’s little reprint, which includes the factory application tables (by model, caliber, and barrel contour) as well as dimensional drawing of the sights themselves, is a very handy reference for guns made around that time.  Easier to understand than Madis’ “Sight Book”… 

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Lou, thank you very much for that information and especially for the .381″ dimension. I assume it’s a Lyman sight, and if I’m also correct it will have the lock down screw. Now when I attend a gun show I’ll have to take my one inch mic along. LOL. Thanks fell’as.         

 

P.S.    I guess it’s ok for me to highjack my own thread, so while I have you two on the line here’s another question for you. This 94 is a beater, just something to shoot and enjoy, but it has an issue I haven’t been able to figure out. When it’s loaded directly into the chamber, one round at a time, and the bolt is closed the trigger is VERY light. Less than a pound easy, but when it’s fed from the magazine tube the trigger pull must be around six or seven pounds. I’ve had it all apart and cannot see anything obviously wrong. You guys have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.      RRM

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When it’s loaded directly into the chamber, one round at a time, and the bolt is closed the trigger is VERY light. Less than a pound easy, but when it’s fed from the magazine tube the trigger pull must be around six or seven pounds.Rat Rod Mac said  

What happens if you lower the hammer after loading the single round, then bring it back to full cock?  Is it still only 1 lb?  Single-loading directly into the chamber is not the customary way of chambering the first round, though why it should have that effect on pull, I have no idea; but it’s a problem easily avoided by feeding from the mag.

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You know Clarence I never thought of lowering the hammer after chambering a round and re-cocking it. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. Actually, knowing it’s a hair trigger after single loading it isn’t all bad when you’re at the range by yourself and you know it’s coming. Almost like a bench gun. LOL. But I sure as heck would not want to hunt with it. Not with gloves on.  Thanks again.    RRM

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