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Forgotten Weapons Series on Winchester Development on YouTube
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Hey guys,

I like to catch Forgotten Weapons occasionally on YouTube when Ian has an interesting piece on. If you are not familiar, each episode generally delves into the history, function, and construction of a variety of old firearms. Not specific to Winchester (at all – Ian seems to have an affinity for French bolt-action rifles) but today’s episode starts a series following the development of Winchester lever action rifles with the 1860 Henry.

Might be an interesting thing to follow.

Note that while in this episode he is at Rock Island Auctions, I don’t believe he has a direct affiliation. He often shows up at nearly all of the major auction houses when there is an upcoming auction and has access to many of the auction items to discuss.

 

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Interesting, thanks for the link.

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Looks like it’ll be an interesting 8 part series.

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Thanks, very good info on the Henry!

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Just posting the link to today’s installment on the M1866 for convenience.

 

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I figured I’d compile the links to the series here to save y’all some Googlin’. If anyone objects please let me know. So far an interesting primer to the Winchester noob.

 

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Thanks for the links, Steve. These are great videos.

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Today’s installment:

 

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Thanks for posting the links  supergimp, I have enjoyed every one of them and look forward to the next.   

 

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Today’s installment is my favorite. I only own one, a late model .33WCF that’s been refinished – albeit a really nice job – (I paid appropriately – all I could afford). It’s a joy to fondle and even more fun to make up loads and take to the range.

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Just watched the 1894 video and very informative even.  Well put together to boot.  Thanks for posting!

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Yup. Here’s today’s link for WACA posterity:

 

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The venerable M1892 today:

 

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The 44 WCF caliber Model 1892’s DO NOT make up 80% of the total production.  Where do they dream this stuff up from???

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The 44 WCF caliber Model 1892’s DO NOT make up 80% of the total production.  Where do they dream this stuff up from???

Michael  

So…did you leave a comment and let Ian know? I’ve corresponded with him on other matters in the past and he’s genuinely interested in accurate history. 

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supergimp said

So…did you leave a comment and let Ian know? I’ve corresponded with him on other matters in the past and he’s genuinely interested in accurate history.   

SG,

I did not make a comment.   I took a quick look at the video before heading out to the beach here in northern Michigan.  I will go back and do that.

Thanks.  Michael

 

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Hello Ian,

You comment that the 44 WCF caliber configuration makes up 80% of the total Model 1892 production. I can assure you that this is far from being correct. In an effort to answer just these sort of questions precisely I have been conducting a research survey of the Model 1892 rifles for over 6 years now and have cataloged just over 10,200 individual rifles. Based on this data set it is apparent that the 44 WCF in fact makes up approximately 22% of the total number of rifles sampled. It would be almost impossible that the other three caliber choices are dramatically over represented in the market place to skew the numbers that dramatically.

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He also mentioned that the 38WCF was a 44WCF necked down to 38 which of course is incorrect. Overall a very good series but they are relatively short videos. Not sure about his comment about the percentage of 1894’s chambered in 30WCF, sounds a little high.

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Mike,

What was the percentage mention in the video? I have very accurate numbers based on over 18,000 surveyed thus far.

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Mike,
What was the percentage mention in the video?

Think he said 70%.  An elementary presentation, but probably as much as any Millennial would care to know, and much superior, technically, to such discussions of firearms that appear on History Channel. 

Liked his attribution of .30WCF’s popularity to its being an intelligent compromise–not overly powerful, but powerful enough for most purposes.  But he displayed an ignorance of the properties of early smokeless cartridges (all corrosive primed) when he alleged smokeless allowed ’94s to be shot “hundreds of times” without cleaning and without (he implied) damage.

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“An elementary presentation, but probably as much as any Millennial would care to know, and much superior, technically, to such discussions of firearms that appear on History Channel. “

It may have not been the best presentation in it’s accuracy, but we can help him improve by emailing corrections and information. I think he would appreciate it.

I would also like to suggest that we, the WACA, support Forgotten Weapons with a continuing contribution to his patrion(sp) page. It is only a buck or two a month and a truly unique YouTube program. Programmer’s ability to create monitary sponsorship has been crippled and it would be a shame for the program to disappear. Even though only a few episodes are on Winchesters, we should appreciate information provided on all weapons. I support him and would like to see our Association do the same. What do you all think?

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