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October 28, 2020 - 8:20 pm
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Here’s a 14 inch “Trapper” SRC.  It has the stepped receiver.  Quite a rare piece.  I suspect this would fit very well in Henry’s collection (and a few other’s around here).  Anyway, I was interested that the RIA describer was obviously tuned into the stepped receiver aspect as he notes: “Receiver is of the “stepped” type usually found on smaller caliber carbines but on Trapper models during this period of production is absolutely correct.”

https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/2018-391/

I did note this piece sold for about ten grand more than the auction estimate.

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October 28, 2020 - 11:52 pm
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Aussie Chris said

G’day Bob. Is the heavier receiver frame on the heavy barrel ’73s visible? Do you have any pictures? I have not seen one. Great info! 

Chris  

Chris,

Here is a picture comparing two receivers. The lower one is a 44 third model and the heavy barrel is the extra heavy in 22 extra long.

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October 29, 2020 - 12:05 am
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Great picture Bob, thank you! 

Very nice 73s! Can I push the friendship and ask to see both rifles in full? Laugh

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October 29, 2020 - 12:08 am
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I never get tired of that heavy barreled .22 Bob has.  I agree – more photos would be Cool

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Here is the 22

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Here is the 44.

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Bob –

Two very special rifles.  Thanks for posting the pictures.  I mostly recall the story about how you unexpectedly ran across and acquired the .22.  

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1873man said
Here is the 22

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Here is the 44.

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Wow. Just wow! Thank you for sharing them with us Bob! That 22 would make for a heavy 73! 

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Interesting in that it’s a .44 but has the stepped receiver usually associated with .38, .32 and .22 caliber rifles.  The stepped receivers were also used on .44 caliber short rifles.  I don’t recall seeing a stepped receiver on a long barrel 1873.

Thoughts?  

Does anyone have a photo of a stepped receiver beside a non stepped receiver for visual comparison.

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Bob,

Very neat Model 1873!  It has to be a “one-of-a-kind” in that configuration.

For comparison purposes, the picture below is the muzzle face of a Take Down high-wall I have in my collection.  It is a 22 Short with a 24-inch No. 3 octagon barrel.

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Bert,

I would think the extra heavy in 22 is a one of a kind by itself. You add the 22 extra long caliber and its guarantied. I talked with Jim Gordon about it and he when he was going through the ledgers he would be looking for stuff like this and never seen it. I remember you posted pictures of yours and if I recall its heavier at 13.5#. How does the takedown on a high wall lock together?

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I would think the extra heavy in 22 is a one of a kind by itself. You add the 22 extra long caliber and its guarantied. I talked with Jim Gordon about it and he when he was going through the ledgers he would be looking for stuff like this and never seen it. I remember you posted pictures of yours and if I recall its heavier at 13.5#. How does the takedown on a high wall lock together?

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I have two high-walls in .22 rim fire with a No. 3 octagon barrel; (1) A 22 Long Rifle w/30-inch barrel; (2) the 22 Short Take Down w/24-inch barrel.  The high-wall rifle with the 30-inch No. 3 barrel weights 13.5 lbs. (see the picture below).  The bottom rifle is an early low-wall 22 Short w/24-inch 1/2 octagon No. 1 barrel.

The Take Down on the high-wall is identical to the Model 1895 lever-action.  It uses the locking tab on the bottom of the take down extension.

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Here are some detailed pictures of the Take Down rifle;

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Bert,

Thanks for posting that.

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RickC said

Does anyone have a photo of a stepped receiver beside a non stepped receiver for visual comparison.  

Here are two 1873 round barrel rifles from my collection. 

The one on top is .38 WCF made in 1889, standard rifle.  Note the stepped receiver.

The one on bottom is .44 WCF made in 1887, standard rifle except for case hardened receiver.  As previously discussed, the barrel diameter on the .32 and .38 rifles is less than .44 caliber rifles.  The stepped receiver accommodates that nicely.   As with anything Winchester, there are exceptions.

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Thanks Bill. That will help anyone new or following this thread that doesn’t know.

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1873man said

Chris,

Here is a picture comparing two receivers. The lower one is a 44 third model and the heavy barrel is the extra heavy in 22 extra long.

Bob

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I’m assuming it is 22 extra long rim fire?

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Aussie Chris said

Wow. Just wow! Thank you for sharing them with us Bob! That 22 would make for a heavy 73! 

Chris  

This rifle is beyond cool.  But it also probably takes the prize for the most poorly balanced Winchester lever action rifle.

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Chuck said

I’m assuming it is 22 extra long rim fire?  

Yes, rim fire

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Nice rifles Bob & Bert. Only dream of finding those here.

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Hear are my two 73s, carbine and 20” short rifle, both are 44 cal.73.1.jpgImage Enlarger

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