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The mod. ’94 I have in 38-55 with a 28′ extra heavy oct. bbl. would be high up on the list of most unbalanced lever guns out there. It also documented one of a kind, and I understand why.

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The mod. ’94 I have in 38-55 with a 28′ extra heavy oct. bbl. would be high up on the list of most unbalanced lever guns out there. It also documented one of a kind, and I understand why.  

Henry – I’m sure it would be very high on the list as well.  Bob’s rifle is so very high up because of that small .22 caliber hole in the barrel.  Yours would make it even further up the list if it was a .25-35 vs. a .38-55.

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Here a comparison of the three 73 rifle receivers. left is a 44, middle is a 38 and a 32 on the right. The step in the 38 and 32’s is milled down about .045″ from a 44

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Here a comparison of the three 73 rifle receivers. left is a 44, middle is a 38 and a 32 on the right. The step in the 38 and 32’s is milled down about .045″ from a 44

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Good photo & comparison Bob.

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Henry – I’m sure it would be very high on the list as well.  Bob’s rifle is so very high up because of that small .22 caliber hole in the barrel.  Yours would make it even further up the list if it was a .25-35 vs. a .38-55.  

Hmmmm….how would an 85 in 32-40 with a 32” #4 barrel rank as front-heavy? When I carry it in a soft case I don’t know whether to move the handles forward or put wheels on the muzzle end. Wink

 

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Hmmmm….how would an 85 in 32-40 with a 32” #4 barrel rank as front-heavy? When I carry it in a soft case I don’t know whether to move the handles forward or put wheels on the muzzle end. Wink

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Wimp…  Try lugging around high-wall with a 36-inch No. 5 barrel!!  Serial number 105585 is a high-wall Special Sporting Rifle chambered for the 32-40 cartridge, and it is not the “biggest” or heaviest high-wall I have seen.   Many years ago I also had my hands on serial number 81524… a Schuetzen Rifle with a 30-inch No. 6 octagon barrel (one of just two model 1885 rifles made with a no. 6 barrel), 32-40 chamber.  It weighed in at nearly 19 lbs.  The barrel diameter at the muzzle was a whopping 1.25 inches!!!

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It really gets my blood flowing to hear about these monstrously heavy barreled rifles.  I wonder if the 19 pounder Bert describes takes the prize as the heaviest vintage Winchester made?

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It really gets my blood flowing to hear about these monstrously heavy barreled rifles.  I wonder if the 19 pounder Bert describes takes the prize as the heaviest vintage Winchester made?  

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I have never seen or heard of one that is heavier. 

There were at least 3-dozen Model 1885 rifles manufactured with a 36-inch barrel No. 4 or 5 size barrel.  The heaviest rifle would be S/N 100619.  It is a 2nd variation Schuetzen Rifle, 25-20 S.S. caliber, with a 36-inch No. 5 octagon barrel. It was shipped with a Mid Range Vernier tang sight, Wind Gauge globe front sight, and no rear sight seat.  Due to its small chamber & bore size, that rifle has to be extremely heavy!

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Two very special rifles.  Thanks for posting the pictures.  I mostly recall the story about how you unexpectedly ran across and acquired the .22.    

Yes!  No doubt!  I can see why you don’t get tired of the .22, Steve.  I have to tell you, though, I could not get tired of the .44 either!!!

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Two very special rifles.  Thanks for posting the pictures.  I mostly recall the story about how you unexpectedly ran across and acquired the .22.    

Yes!  No doubt!  I can see why you don’t get tired of the .22, Steve.  I have to tell you, though, I could not get tired of the .44 either!!!

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James – trust me, that heavy barreled .44 is my kind of rifle!  I surely would not tire of it.  It’s just the .22 is so… well, freakish (in a very good way).

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James – trust me, that heavy barreled .44 is my kind of rifle!  I surely would not tire of it.  It’s just the .22 is so… well, freakish (in a very good way).  

You nailed it!

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The rifle that began this thread ended on gunbroker this evening – $3999.98.  As mentioned, it sold at Poulan in 2018 for $4900, so someone lost some money.

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This thread started out talking about extra long ’73’s well here’a few, and they are available20201031_164300.jpgImage Enlarger20201031_164621.jpgImage Enlarger20201031_164654.jpgImage Enlarger20201031_164824-1.jpgImage Enlarger Ser#560958 does not mention the 32″ bbl.  and I’m not sure what M.W.and C (in stock column) means. All 3 are in nice cond. and are available@$5500.00U.S. each. I know I need to get better pictures and when it quits snowing here I’ll get out and do that

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Henry – the barrel lengths on the above rifles are 26, 28 and 32 inches?  In the photo, they all look the same length to me.  

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Steve,

Its a optical illusion. The bottom gun is the 28″, The middle is the 30″ and the top a 32″. Here is  the picture that I adjusted the lighting to show the detail. As  you can see the top gun is the 32″ with the double barrel band.

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Steve,

Its a optical illusion. The bottom gun is the 28″, The middle is the 30″ and the top a 32″. Here is  the picture that I adjusted the lighting to show the detail. As  you can see the top gun is the 32″ with the double barrel band.

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Yes I looked at that photo and they look the same length to Me also. It was snowing here that day and took the photos in My gun room . Relatively poor lighting and My technical deficiency show up really well though. I have a few to many ’73’s now. I’m hoping to trade a couple off for a Russian  mod. ’95 musket or an ’86 musket.

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