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Do you have a thing for Uberti reproductions?

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Maverick said
Do you have a thing for Uberti reproductions?

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Maverick  

I guess I have a thing for worn out eye glasses. I’ll just pretend they’re all Winchesters.

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RickC said

I guess I have a thing for worn out eye glasses. I’ll just pretend they’re all Winchesters.  

Agreed.  It is, after all, eye candy; not in-the-hand candy.  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  I like the 30″.

Here’s five Winchesters and two Italians (30″ and brass 66):

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Big fan of eye candy. My Colt replicas make nice decorations (and shooters!) and few can tell the difference. My Winchester eye candy is the real thing, they even go to the range now and then as they’re shooters too. The Uberti rifles are indeed attractive but they are similar in price to good shooter Winchesters…and most of you know I have a weakness for shooters.

 

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Contrarian opinion here, but why would one collect replicas?  Replicas would take up both the space for real Winchesters and might leave one short the funds necessary to purchase a really nice one should the aforementioned unexpectedly come up for sake at a reasonable or even low price.

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Contrarian opinion here, but why would one collect replicas?  Replicas would take up both the space for real Winchesters and might leave one short the funds necessary to purchase a really nice one should the aforementioned unexpectedly come up for sake at a reasonable or even low price.  

I agree.

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I can’t even bring myself to buy a post 64. I’m a trapper fan & have the opportunity to buy a 1894 trapper 16”(1982) but being an advanced collector it just doesn’t do it for me unless it was in the box unfired with papers I would possibly consider it.

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should the aforementioned unexpectedly come up for sake at a reasonable or even low price.  

And therein lies the rub.  I don’t collect Winchesters because I like looking for them, or waiting for them.  I collect them because I like looking at them.  And possessing them.  Some folks like the search.  I like the having.

And, while I find the price of replicas to be unreasonable and high, they are generally not as unreasonable or as high as Winchesters.  And I don’t have to look for them.  I like the way replicas look, and work, and (sometimes) their price.

I’ve never been in a situation where I couldn’t afford a Winchester that I wanted because I had spent money on replicas.  But I’ve often been in a situation where I didn’t think a Winchester or a replica was worth to me what was being asked by a seller.

In short, all other things being equal, I’ll take a Winchester.  But all other things are never equal.  Especially when you shoot .45 Colt.

  

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…Especially when you shoot .45 Colt.

If you shoot .45 Colt, here’s what you need, LOL!

(It’s a nearly pristine Colt Single Action Army Artillery Model revolver.)

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Nice looking gun.  These scare me because so many of these were assembled with parts/serial numbers.  I’m not smart enough to tell if they are real unless all the parts/serial numbers match.

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Nice looking gun.  These scare me because so many of these were assembled with parts/serial numbers.  I’m not smart enough to tell if they are real unless all the parts/serial numbers match.  

Even then, as one expert says, most of them have been “helped along” over the last 100 years.  

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Huck Riley said
…Especially when you shoot .45 Colt.

If you shoot .45 Colt, here’s what you need, LOL!

Beautiful!  And spendy, too, I bet. 

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I can’t even bring myself to buy a post 64. I’m a trapper fan & have the opportunity to buy a 1894 trapper 16”(1982) but being an advanced collector it just doesn’t do it for me unless it was in the box unfired with papers I would possibly consider it.

RickC  

I had two nice post-64 Trappers once. They hung out in the back of my safe for over 20 years after paying about $250 apiece for them. They looked good on my mantel now and then. Sold them for silly money a few years ago. One even had the dreaded cross-bolt safety and was chambered in 45 Colt. Came home with some nice but somewhat older Winchesters, one was even a 32 Special. 

All kidding aside I learned the value of eye candy even before I started collecting Winchesters. I always have something on my table to make people stop and look. 

 

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Huck Riley said

mrcvs said

Huck Riley said
…Especially when you shoot .45 Colt.

If you shoot .45 Colt, here’s what you need, LOL!

Beautiful!  And spendy, too, I bet.   

While certainly not cheap, I amazingly got this one for about what I was willing to pay for it WITHOUT the Kopec letter, and I would have had to pay for the letter, and I was taking the gamble.  I was aware of this revolver before it was sent to John Kopec for his expert evaluation.  A price wasn’t discussed prior to sending to Mr Kopec.  The revolver was sent off, it, as I expected, garnered the coveted Gold Seal of Approval.  At that point, the seller offered it to me at exactly that which I would have paid prior to having the pedigreed letter.  If you are patient, there’s still great stuff out there at relatively reasonable prices.

For those wanting to learn more about the authentication process:

http://www.johnakopec.com

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My world has a place for both Winchesters and Winchester copies. All things being equal I’d prefer a 40-60 percent Winchester over a new or used copy. However I like to do things with copies I would never do with a real Winchester like case color finishing, custom finishing the wood, etc.

I have a few really nice Winchester model 94s with special order features but the gun that gets the most attention is my early 90s Navy Arms model 92 copy made by Rossi. I had the receiver charcoal case colored which looks great with nitre blued screws and some nickel plated hardware. The gun also has an action job and is quite fun to shoot. The American walnut stocks were refinished using my custom stain and shellac. Most ask if it was refinished by Turnbull. It is by far the best looking gun in my collection while being the least valuable. It is also the closest thing I’ll ever have to a custom built gun.

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