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January 22, 2023 - 8:43 pm
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I know very little about engraved Winchesters .  I was looking at a commemorative I had never seen before, Winchester 94 Limited Edition 11 30-30 Carbine.   The seller said this rifle was hand engraved.   I had seen a number of Lazer engraved commemoratives but never one that is hand engraved.   I see that there was 1500 of these rifles made and find it a bit hard to believe they were hand engraved.  

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  Ask seller how many hand engraved guns he’s handled.

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The original price of the gun would answer if it was hand engraved.

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I am sure Burt will chime in here soon. But I am under the belief “hand engraved ended around the mid 1900. could be wrong.

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I see another seller on the same run of rifles said. the rifle is etched not engraved.  According to the information on this forum the sale price was $1750

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I am sure Burt will chime in here soon. But I am under the belief “hand engraved ended around the mid 1900. could be wrong.

  

Hand engraved was the norm up until 1980 (at least for Winchester) for all non Commemorative Winchester firearms.

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The pictures I found online show acid etched and for the price you couldn’t afford to have it hand engraved.

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Thanks folks for responding to my questions.  The rifle is still being advertised as a hand engraved Winchester.  This is a high volume dealer.  I guess this must be a combination of acid etched and a little Lazer work.  I will admit it is really a pretty rifle. 

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Thanks folks for responding to my questions.  The rifle is still being advertised as a hand engraved Winchester.  This is a high volume dealer.  I guess this must be a combination of acid etched and a little Lazer work.  I will admit it is really a pretty rifle. 

  

Each to his own.  I would take a plain, high condition ’94 carbine made in 1963 or earlier any day over that gaudy acid etched Winchester.  I find it hideous.  I know I’m being blunt, but as it’s just a rifle you’ve seen advertised, vs. one you own, I’m hoping I don’t offend you by stating my reaction to it.  My reaction is a sincere one.

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I find it hideous. steve004 said

  

I was going to say “grotesque,” but “hideous” will do.

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It clearly is not a collector grade gun.  But, you want to buy what you like.  There is a buyer for every gun.  Most on here wouldn’t be that buyer.

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While this gun would be a hard pass for me I have learned there folks out there who like these type of things.  If not there would not be so many to start with.  European guns are often quite different then American guns with much more elaborate decoration.  From Country to country it will vary, Think Italian – Black Forest – English.  All very different from one another. 

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Old Guns said
While this gun would be a hard pass for me I have learned there folks out there who like these type of things.  If not there would not be so many to start with.  European guns are often quite different then American guns with much more elaborate decoration.  From Country to country it will vary, Think Italian – Black Forest – English.  All very different from one another. 

  

Very true.  Some of the best custom gun-makers in this country emigrated from Germany, & their early guns, at least, exhibited similar “elaborate decoration,” which was not to the taste of most American shooters.  But even before that, the carved stock options Winchester offered appear to me evidence of influence by Germanic tastes in decoration.  Not aware of that style being popular in Britain or Italy, however.  There’s fancy, but then there’s over-the-top fancy, & to me, stock carving fits that category. 

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