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Not normally my cup of tea, but I recently saw a 66 rifle in CF. I understand that a number of them were converted in this way. So my dumb question is what cartridge was used after being converted? 44-40?
October 29, 2011
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44 Russian???
April 15, 2005
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The cartridge was a center fire version of the original 44 Henry cartridge.
Bert
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April 30, 2023
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There’s some pics of it in Les Quick’s Henry book on p. 202
May 2, 2009
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This has been discussed here quite extensively.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/winchester-model-1866-caliber/
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March 31, 2009
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oldcrankyyankee said
Not normally my cup of tea, but I recently saw a 66 rifle in CF. I understand that a number of them were converted in this way. So my dumb question is what cartridge was used after being converted? 44-40?
Read the thread Bob posted. Winchester did make some for South America. These all have a B stamped on the barrel and are in a specific serial number range. Once people saw what it would take to convert one on their own, many did. The Russian case can be used or the S&W 44 Spl. I have never seen a box of Win CF for the 66. I’m sure someone has.
May 23, 2009
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Chuck said
I have never seen a box of Win CF for the 66. I’m sure someone has.
The only box that I’m aware of is mentioned and shown on this forum topic below. As stated on the forum its a hand written label and not a factory printed label. So it begs the question if such a printed label was ever used by the factory for said caliber.
Other than the box shown, I’ve not heard of any other such box for this caliber.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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September 19, 2014
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Old Cranky Yankee didn’t actually ask a dumb question. Years ago, Wolfe Publishing in their “Rifle” magazine, had an article on the model 1866 and published how Winchester chambered some in .44-40! I tried to educate the author and editor, but seemingly got no where. No correction, no acknowledgement of error. At least I wasn’t told to F…off! When editors/authors write erroneous info and don’t accept they may be wrong they then only sow false info for the readership. Still, it is up to us to try to educate them as best we can even if “unwashed, uneducated know nothings”! Tim
November 7, 2015
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Nope, not a dumb question. Answer is very interesting and as Tim points out not nearly as simple as 44WCF. I really enjoyed the thread Maverick posted the link to, it helped explain the rifles we see today and the condition we find them in.
Mike
March 31, 2009
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Maverick said
Chuck said
I have never seen a box of Win CF for the 66. I’m sure someone has.
The only box that I’m aware of is mentioned and shown on this forum topic below. As stated on the forum its a hand written label and not a factory printed label. So it begs the question if such a printed label was ever used by the factory for said caliber.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/1866-winchester-44-cal-cf/page-3/
Other than the box shown, I’ve not heard of any other such box for this caliber.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Maverick, now that you mention it, I remember seeing it.
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