Bert H. said
My experience as well. A set trigger on any Winchester rifle is a desirable plus… whether it was 130-years ago, or today.
A set trigger is desirable on ANY rifle, IF you know how to use it properly; I’ve been shooting with them on different makes of SSs (following your dictum) for 60 yrs, & only had trouble with a Ben Rice repro of a Win DS. But I shoot 1000s of rounds/yr, NEVER had “buck fever,” pick my shots carefully & never without a rest of some kind, & if conditions for a shot aren’t just right, my dinner doesn’t depend on pulling the trigger. So I’m not your “average hunter,” & what I said previously doesn’t apply to me either.
oldcrankyyankee said I was corrected recently that a DST is supposedly termed close coupled set trigger or CCST.
Actually, factory called them “DS,” never used term “close-coupled,” which like “trapper” is collector terminology. The type of triggers every other maker called “DS,” Win called “Schuetzen DS,” though they were common on Kentucky rifles too. I think you’re right–that 36-incher would work well with a DS, & even better with a muzzle-rest such as used with matchlocks.
clarence said
oldcrankyyankee said I was corrected recently that a DST is supposedly termed close coupled set trigger or CCST.
Actually, factory called them “DS,” never used term “close-coupled,” which like “trapper” is collector terminology. The type of triggers every other maker called “DS,” Win called “Schuetzen DS,” though they were common on Kentucky rifles too. I think you’re right–that 36-incher would work well with a DS, & even better with a muzzle-rest such as used with matchlocks.
Wrong!! Winchester did indeed refer to them as a “close-coupled” set trigger as well as “new set” trigger in the Single Shot records. In most cases, they are simply listed as “set” trigger in the factory records. After they were introduced in late 1895, Winchester began listing the single-set trigger as “”Sgl Set”, the close-coupled as “Set”, and the Schuetzen double set as “Sch Set” in the factory records.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Wrong!! Winchester did indeed refer to them as a “close-coupled” set trigger as well as “new set” trigger in the Single Shot records. In most cases, they are simply listed as “set” trigger in the factory records. After they were introduced in late 1895, Winchester began listing the single-set trigger as “”Sgl Set”, the close-coupled as “Set”, and the Schuetzen double set as “Sch Set” in the factory records.
Well, they weren’t called that in the catalog descriptions of “extras.”
oldcrankyyankee said
Well I like them also. not sure of the practicality of them on a lever gun…. But when your humping a 36″ I guess settling in for the first shot would be very ideal..BTW I was corrected recently that a DST is supposedly termed close coupled set trigger or CCST.![]()
Now that’s a cool 1886!
A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...
On the topic of what they were called, in the Extras section of my 1916 Winchester catalog, the following extras were offered for triggers:
Set Triggers on Repeating Rifles, Model 1873 $3.00
Double Set Triggers on Models 1886, 1892 and 1894 $3.00
Regular Set Triggers on Single Shot Rifles $2.00
Schuetzen Set Triggers on Single Shot Rifles $6.00
steve004 said
On the topic of what they were called, in the Extras section of my 1916 Winchester catalog, the following extras were offered for triggers:Set Triggers on Repeating Rifles, Model 1873 $3.00
Double Set Triggers on Models 1886, 1892 and 1894 $3.00
Regular Set Triggers on Single Shot Rifles $2.00
Schuetzen Set Triggers on Single Shot Rifles $6.00
The “Regular Set Triggers” listed for the Single Shot was for both the single-set and close-coupled set. The single-set was exclusively used for the low-walls and the close-coupled set was used for the high-walls (as standard) when a set trigger was ordered.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Aussie Chris said
oldcrankyyankee said
Well I like them also. not sure of the practicality of them on a lever gun…. But when your humping a 36″ I guess settling in for the first shot would be very ideal..BTW I was corrected recently that a DST is supposedly termed close coupled set trigger or CCST.
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Now that’s a cool 1886!
Thanks Aussie, Was along time coming but finally got it. See I really like 86’s. I really love 86’s in 45-90. I really really love 86’s with uncommon special order features that letter. And this one checked a few boxes so to speak. Even called John Madl to talk about it. That was the probably the best part.
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