426crown said
Have a 94 OBCB good bore, Made 1911 does not letter. What is the value of the DST, or how much does it increase the value-Thanks Bill 

A DST on a SS would be a valuable asset no matter how it got there, but on a ’94 I put it in the category of an inexperienced shooter’s impractical choice adding little to value; had it been ordered from the factory, it would still be impractical for the kind of shooting usually done with ’94s, but a more valuable one.

426crown said
Have a 94 OBCB good bore, …..What is the value of the DST, …..

  

OK y’all pop quiz for me…..I got Octagon Barrel _____ _______, and Dual Set Trigger ….help me with the rest of the first part.

Jeremy P said

OK y’all pop quiz for me…..I got Octagon Barrel _____ _______, and Dual Set Trigger

DOUBLE set.

My issue with DST’s is mostly my own ignorance. I’d worry about it working correctly or failing in addition to being incorrectly adjusted. I don’t know how to check or adjust it and if it needed repair I’d probably pass.TXGunNut said

In other words, K.I.S.S., words of wisdom usually more honored in the the breach than the observance.   But you’re talking about a collector’s item that you might plink with a bit at the range, & nothing lost if the trigger misbehaves, not a gun bought new for hunting, & maybe your only one.  Bert’s figures on the number of ’94s ordered with DSTs proves that neophytes weren’t discriminated against when ordering new Winchesters. 

Im not sure why a set trigger on a carbine or rifle, irrespective of lever-action model, would be thought to be impracticable.  If youve ever used them, whether to shoot targets or game, they give you an edge.  Not to mention you have the option of using the set trigger function, or not, depending on your shooting or hunting conditions.  To deem them impractical would be like saying the 7 lbs trigger in my scoped bolt-action deer rifle is better suited for shooting accuracy than one adjusted to 3 lbs of pull.   I place more value on the thought that went into ordering a standard carbine or rifle with the added set trigger and sling eyes than one with all the embellishments that was more for show than for practical use.   

Set triggers (lower tang and set trigger assembly) and accompanying hammer used to sell for $500 or so years ago, Im sure they are like hens teeth to find now days and cost a bit more, havent kept up with their current cost as parts.  As far as value added, it may add $500-750 in value to the right buyer, maybe more, or less depending on condition, other features, or lack thereof. 

From a collecting standpoint, Id be willing to bet DST on 1894 or 1892 carbines are exceedingly less common than on rifles, especially in the later years of production, making them an attention getter, at least for me. 

Bill Hanzel said
Cb- crescent butt 

sb-shotgun butt

  

Thanks, I think I knew that and forgot!

  

 

Talking about impractical, this one definitely foots the bill!  But from a collector standpoint, I love it but I like the unusual.

 

Don

It may be (debatably) impractical, but it sure is cool, I have to agree!

1892takedown said
Im not sure why a set trigger on a carbine or rifle, irrespective of lever-action model, would be thought to be impracticable.  If youve ever used them, whether to shoot targets or game, they give you an edge.  Not to mention you have the option of using the set trigger function, or not, depending on your shooting or hunting conditions.  To deem them impractical would be like saying the 7 lbs trigger in my scoped bolt-action deer rifle is better suited for shooting accuracy than one adjusted to 3 lbs of pull.   I place more value on the thought that went into ordering a standard carbine or rifle with the added set trigger and sling eyes than one with all the embellishments that was more for show than for practical use.   

Set triggers (lower tang and set trigger assembly) and accompanying hammer used to sell for $500 or so years ago, Im sure they are like hens teeth to find now days and cost a bit more, havent kept up with their current cost as parts.  As far as value added, it may add $500-750 in value to the right buyer, maybe more, or less depending on condition, other features, or lack thereof. 

From a collecting standpoint, Id be willing to bet DST on 1894 or 1892 carbines are exceedingly less common than on rifles, especially in the later years of production, making them an attention getter, at least for me. 

  

Spot on, Chris!  Having the option to set a lighter trigger pull on a first, well-aimed shot and then being able to use the trigger with a normal pull weight on follow-up shots is quite practical, even in our beloved Winchester lever guns that may not be capable of the most extreme accuracy.  I certainly like having the option to set the trigger on these old girls, especially when hunting.  I only wish Winchester had been able to fit 1895’s with set triggers, because I prefer the caliber selection they offer for deer-sized game.

Complete set trigger assemblies have become very expensive, as have the individual parts.  An 1873 single set trigger assembly recently sold on EBAY for $1,000.  It actually made it’s way into my shop where a customer asked me to break it down for parts to get his set trigger working.  Thankfully, Sam Simmons, a gunsmith in Arkansas has started reproducing single set trigger parts using parts I supplied as templates.  He sells them on EBAY and GunBroker.  Bob Knapp makes the parts, but won’t sell them, only use them to repair complete set trigger assemblies sent to him.  Unfortunately, I don’t know of a source for close coupled set trigger parts at this time.

I do quite a lot of set trigger work in my shop.  In fact, I built a fly and catch hook for an early 2nd model 1873 and got it working yesterday.  Winchesters with working set triggers bring a modest premium, while a Winchester with a set trigger that’s not working will have a detrimental impact on value because they’re difficult to have repaired.   I keep an eye out for those for sale with set triggers that don’t function properly.  There’s often an opportunity for me to repair them and make a few dollars towards my next purchase. Mark

Mark Douglas said

Spot on, Chris!  Having the option to set a lighter trigger pull on a first, well-aimed shot and then being able to use the trigger with a normal pull weight on follow-up shots is quite practical, even in our beloved Winchester lever guns that may not be capable of the most extreme accuracy.

Set triggers are great when they work “as advertised,” or if they don’t, you can fix them yourself.  But Mark, let’s say you’re a fellow living in some part of the country before WWI where the nearest gunsmith is a day’s distance away by buggy or Model T, & instead of owning 100+ guns like most WACA members, you can afford to own a shotgun, maybe a .22 or handgun, & one “deer rifle.”  Let’s also assume you’re an “average hunter” who isn’t in a position to be shooting often, like hunters I know who can get through several hunting seasons on a single box of ammo; around 2/3rds of the members of my fish & game club visit our range ONE time a yr just before the season opens to check their scope zeros.  What’s the wisest choice, in your opinion, for such a poor soul, DST or plain?