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Can anyone give me a lesson on how a DST should function? got an 86 here with one now and it is a first for me and not sure if it is working properly.

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Can anyone give me a lesson on how a DST should function? got an 86 here with one now and it is a first for me and not sure if it is working properly.

  

Your Model 1886 has a “close-coupled” set trigger.  With the lever open, push the rear trigger piece forward until it clicks.  It should be in contact with the front half of the trigger when it sets.  If it does not set, try carefully backing out the set screw (use a proper fitting screwdriver).

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Bert H. said

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Can anyone give me a lesson on how a DST should function? got an 86 here with one now and it is a first for me and not sure if it is working properly.

  

Your Model 1886 has a “close-coupled” set trigger.  With the lever open, push the rear trigger piece forward until it clicks.  It should be in contact with the front half of the trigger when it sets.  If it does not set, try carefully backing out the set screw (use a proper fitting screwdriver).

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Ok so I’ve tried to operate as you suggested and I don’t seem to get “the set”. if I cock the hammer to half cock rear trigger jumps forward a bit and gives the impression it has engaged. Upon cocking hammer to full cock it actually has a double click. The rear trigger never actually contacts the forward trigger. adjusting the screw with a proper fitting screwdriver seems to gain nothing.  

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Have you removed buttstock & sprayed trigger parts with a cleaner like Breakfree?  More moving parts & delicate springs means the possibility of malfunction is increased, compared to standard trigger.  For the kind of hunting an ’86 would typically be used for, I see no advantage to having a set trigger.  And if the setting mechanism isn’t working, pulling the trigger unset increases the pull wt on any set trigger gun I’ve ever used.

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Have you removed buttstock & sprayed trigger parts with a cleaner like Breakfree?  More moving parts & delicate springs means the possibility of malfunction is increased, compared to standard trigger.  For the kind of hunting an ’86 would typically be used for, I see no advantage to having a set trigger.  And if the setting mechanism isn’t working, pulling the trigger unset increases the pull wt on any set trigger gun I’ve ever used.

  

No I haven’t pulled stock yet, but in the works. The trigger pull seems remarkably light so not sure if it is actually working or not. 

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Adjust the set screw in and out and to see if the trigger pull gets harder or lighter.

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Adjust the set screw in and out and to see if the trigger pull gets harder or lighter.

  

I have adjusted screw in and out. the only noticeable event is as screw is turned in the gap between  the two triggers closes. Back the screw out and gap increases. Trigger pull weight feels as if stays the same. Now I will say this, the trigger pull is quite light no matter where the set screw is. Also for the record if the hammer is cocked by hand it has 3 “clicks”, first sets hammer at half cock, second “click” is almost all the way back and if you stop there hammer will return to the fired position. Third ‘click” will set hammer to the firing position. No matter where the set screw is at, the rear set trigger does not push forward when the lever is cycled to the forward or down position opening the bolt. Yes I have pulled the stock but  there just isn’t much to see once you do. 

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Definitely not working as it should.  On the other hand, if you’ve got a nice light pull, that’s something to be thankful for, & really all the rifle needs. 

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clarence said
Definitely not working as it should.  On the other hand, if you’ve got a nice light pull, that’s something to be thankful for, & really all the rifle needs. 

  

This has been quite common for the set-triggers I’ve encountered over the years.  I realize experiences will vary.

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steve004 said

clarence said

Definitely not working as it should.  On the other hand, if you’ve got a nice light pull, that’s something to be thankful for, & really all the rifle needs. 

  

This has been quite common for the set-triggers I’ve encountered over the years.  I realize experiences will vary.

  

Damn I wish i had been born 100 years earlier. I finally get an 86 with dst or cst and it only half works. Good news is it has a great chamber, digests everything I put in it! I’ll get it figured out at some point.

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It’s certainly fixable, if you care to run down one of the few people who work on them.  I think you could get away with sending only the lower tang; having to send the brld action wouldn’t be worth the cost & trouble in my opinion.  Does the firing trigger spring look OK?  Not broken?

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 It is very common to have a set trigger problem, if all the parts are there it’s not a big deal. Usually something is assembled wrong or gummed up. !873man is about as good at it as anyone. Perhaps several good pictures posted will get you some good advice.

 Mark Douglas has a good video on a 1876 set trigger, start by watching it. They all work on the same principal, little hammer hits sear. T/R

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