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Contemplating Model 1895 Purchase
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November 14, 2023 - 6:29 pm
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rwsem said

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I agree with Clarence.  There is no easy way to make this brass.  Original brass will probably crack.  I’d find one with more finish and an easier to find or make caliber.  Bertram did make some brass but I do not know if Jamison did?

  

Both made brass.  Bertram USA still has it in stock; $345 for 100, +ship and tax…  

  

Ronald, maybe you could find someone to split the cost with you?  25 cases taken care of would last a very long time.

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Ronald, maybe you could find someone to split the cost with you?  25 cases taken care of would last a very long time.

That would be best, but if it doesn’t work, the surplus could be sold on ebay in smaller lots.

Bertram cases used to have the reputation for premature splitting at the neck, due to improper annealing.  Maybe that problem (for which there’s no excuse) has been corrected in later production.  Annealing them yourself isn’t hard to do.

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rwsem said

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If you are not stuck on the caliber i have a nice 95 td in 30govt06 to part with. No pitting!

  

I have one in 30US.  Tried making rounds out of blank brass but that experiment failed…. 

  

What happened?  I have a couple boxes of new .30-40 blanks around here – often wondered if I could just load them up.

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If I were to sell all my M1895’s except for one, I’d keep one of he .30-40’s.  And it would be one with a Lyman receiver sight on it.  I’d have to ponder a while between a rifle of carbine, but it would be one in .30-40.  There’s nothing wrong with shooting a .30-40 – and a while lot right about it when it comes to finding ammunition, cases and bullets.

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Quality Cartridge in MD also makes the brass, it’s spendy 3.50 a case, but you can buy 20

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steve004 said

rwsem said

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If you are not stuck on the caliber i have a nice 95 td in 30govt06 to part with. No pitting!

  

I have one in 30US.  Tried making rounds out of blank brass but that experiment failed…. 

  

What happened?  I have a couple boxes of new .30-40 blanks around here – often wondered if I could just load them up.

  

Here’s my topic: Reloading the 30 Army Blank

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Quality Cartridge in MD also makes the brass, it’s spendy 3.50 a case, but you can buy 20

  

If so, that’s the best choice; making customers buy 100 is ridiculous, unless you’re a dealer.

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clarence said

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Quality Cartridge in MD also makes the brass, it’s spendy 3.50 a case, but you can buy 20

  

If so, that’s the best choice; making customers buy 100 is ridiculous, unless you’re a dealer.

  

Absolutely! 100 is way to much for a cartridge you shoot on occasion

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cj57 said
Quality Cartridge in MD also makes the brass, it’s spendy 3.50 a case, but you can buy 20

  

Latest catalog says $85 for 20.  $4.25 each.  Also none in stock and they won’t make more until they get a sufficient amount of orders?

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rwsem said

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I have one in 30US.  Tried making rounds out of blank brass but that experiment failed…. 

  

What happened?  I have a couple boxes of new .30-40 blanks around here – often wondered if I could just load them up.

  

Here’s my topic: Reloading the 30 Army Blank

  

Case head separation can cause a lot of damage.

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clarence said
 

Bertram cases used to have the reputation for premature splitting at the neck, due to improper annealing.  Maybe that problem (for which there’s no excuse) has been corrected in later production.  Annealing them yourself isn’t hard to do.

  

I have a lot of Bertram brass and have never split a case neck.  Maybe just lucky.  It is not perfect but is good enough for what I do.   I do believe in annealing.  Even new brass sometimes especially if you are expanding or reducing the neck diameter much.

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November 15, 2023 - 6:34 pm
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Chuck said
Case head separation can cause a lot of damage. 

I believe it!   Recently happened to me on a .22 LR SV.  No damage to rifle though produced huge cloud of smoke, but left my ears ringing for hrs.  Hate to think what a CF would have done!  Had a split rim with same lot previously, so ammo was clearly defective, maybe soft brass.  Returned whole remaining lot, 7 bricks, to mfg. for refund!

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November 15, 2023 - 6:55 pm
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Chuck said

cj57 said

Quality Cartridge in MD also makes the brass, it’s spendy 3.50 a case, but you can buy 20

  

Latest catalog says $85 for 20.  $4.25 each.  Also none in stock and they won’t make more until they get a sufficient amount of orders?

  

Buffalo Arms has 38-72 Bertram brass in stock for $63.49 for a box of 20 or $3.17 each.

38-72 Winchester Cases Bertram-formed Box of 20 (buffaloarms.com)

They also carry 38-72 reformed from 444 Marlin for $2.09 each.

38-72 Winchester Cases* Reformed Cases (buffaloarms.com)

They also make runs of 38-72 ammo, but are currently out of stock.

Not long ago, Graf & Sons was selling 38-72 Bertram Brass for $39.50/box.  I loaded up then, but I see they’re out of stock now.  Might be worth watching for in the future.  Mark

Bertram Brass 38-72 WCF Formed Unprimed Box of 20 – Graf & Sons (grafs.com)

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November 15, 2023 - 11:03 pm
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rwsem said

steve004 said

rwsem said

mark minnillo said

If you are not stuck on the caliber i have a nice 95 td in 30govt06 to part with. No pitting!

  

I have one in 30US.  Tried making rounds out of blank brass but that experiment failed…. 

  

What happened?  I have a couple boxes of new .30-40 blanks around here – often wondered if I could just load them up.

  

Here’s my topic: Reloading the 30 Army Blank

  

Thanks!  I have, once again, decided not to load up the blanks I have.

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