Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Bubba and my 1873 - DOM 1886
Avatar
sixguns
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 40
Member Since:
January 31, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
January 27, 2022 - 6:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

About 10 years ago I picked up this Winchester 1873 44-40 with the idea that I could somehow rectify what some bubba had done to it. It was apparent at the time of purchase that someone took a Q-tip and dipped it into a cold bluing solution and just about outlined all of the edges with it as well as other areas of the rifle. At the time of purchase the outlined areas had a goldish dark mustard color. I tried to correct it by cleaning it with acetone and other chemicals but nothing removed the offending gold outline. Frustrated, I decided to put it away and hopefully come up with a fix some time later. Well here it is 10 years later and I remembered this rifle. I don’t know what brought it to mind but I decided to dig it out from the back of the safe so I could take pictures and perhaps someone here on the forum would possibly tell me how to fix it if at all possible. 

Well, much to my surprise after 10 years of this 1873  sitting in the safe, the gold has turned a brownish color. Although the work bubba did is still visible it has become better with age. The bore is in great shape as well.

I have attached a few pictures. Sorry that they are not that great. Let me know what you think. Angel

20220127_123408.jpg20220127_123439.jpg20220127_123442.jpg20220127_123446.jpg20220127_123456.jpg20220127_123501.jpg20220127_123506.jpg20220127_123510.jpg20220127_123518.jpg20220127_123531.jpg20220127_123534.jpg20220127_123537.jpg20220127_123549.jpg20220127_123555.jpg20220127_123612.jpg20220127_123616.jpg20220127_123620.jpg20220127_123624.jpg20220127_123629.jpg20220127_123643.jpg20220127_123713.jpg

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4894
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
January 27, 2022 - 7:07 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Angel,

Your photos are real dark where you can’t see any detail, just a black gun. Take the photos outside in the shade with natural light. I took one and edited it to lighten it up so I could see.

Bob

73.jpg

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments
WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
sixguns
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 40
Member Since:
January 31, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
January 27, 2022 - 7:55 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

1873MAN, thank you for reminding me…it’s been a long time since I have taken any pictures. These will definitely give you a better look. Angel 

20220127_141921.jpg20220127_141930.jpg20220127_141700.jpg20220127_141703.jpg20220127_141706.jpg20220127_141714.jpg20220127_141716.jpg20220127_141718.jpg20220127_141720.jpg20220127_141723.jpg20220127_141726.jpg20220127_141740.jpg20220127_141745.jpg20220127_141748.jpg20220127_141755.jpg20220127_141911.jpg20220127_141837.jpg20220127_141847.jpg20220127_141901.jpg20220127_141905.jpg20220127_141908.jpg20220127_141826.jpg20220127_141828.jpg20220127_141758.jpg20220127_141802.jpg20220127_141806.jpg20220127_141823.jpg20220127_141831.jpg

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1975
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
January 27, 2022 - 7:57 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

 Angel,

 When someone goes after a gun with cold blue the results are not predictable, sometimes the solution keeps working and colors change and sometimes it rubs off. But always the finished product has no depth. When you shine a bright LED light on real blue or patina you see depth and red grains in it from the original finish. On cold blue it looks dull with no depth, shine, or red. The result can be an improvement when viewed from 3 feet away, but when you look close with a light it’s easy to spot.

 The deed was done before you bought it and if it looks good to you don’t mess with it. The black art of smooze is best left to Bubba.  T/R

Avatar
sixguns
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 40
Member Since:
January 31, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
January 27, 2022 - 8:11 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

TR, Thank you. Yup, it would of been so much more if they just simply left it alone. Oh well, perhaps in another 10 years it will darken even more and grow a nice patina….Here’s HopingLaugh

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1975
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
January 27, 2022 - 9:16 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Sixguns said
TR, Thank you. Yup, it would of been so much more if they just simply left it alone. Oh well, perhaps in another 10 years it will darken even more and grow a nice patina….Here’s HopingLaugh  

 I think most of us have guns just like it, I like mine, it’s hanging in my sun room.. T/R

Avatar
Steve F.
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6
Member Since:
June 12, 2019
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
January 27, 2022 - 9:49 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Angel,

 

Mother’s mag polish (Walmart) will easily remove cold blue, but keep in mind it will also remove any patina. Rub lightly with a soft cloth. If what we are seeing in the pics is a bad blue job it won’t come off. I’ve de-bubba’d many a Winchester in the last 40 years.

 

Steve

Master Gunsmith

Avatar
sixguns
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 40
Member Since:
January 31, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
January 27, 2022 - 9:56 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Hey Steve, Thank you for the information! Much appreciated, AngelWink 

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4894
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
January 28, 2022 - 12:07 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Angel,

It looks like it had some original blue on the barrel. The gun looks good.  Too bad someone had to experiment with enhancing the finish.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Chuck
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6659
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
January 28, 2022 - 5:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I wouldn’t mess with it.  It probably would only make things worse.

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 21294
Currently Online: cj57, antler1, Anthony, DEEREHART, Zebulon
Guest(s) 148
Top Posters:
TXGunNut: 7312
clarence: 7119
Chuck: 6659
steve004: 5640
1873man: 4894
deerhunter: 2971
twobit: 2677
Big Larry: 2578
mrcvs: 2434
Maverick: 2182
Newest Members:
BroncoRN
Blacksmithtom
Jdbuck
psasak
Todd581
KL
lacheall
Tomtwogloves
APEXSHOT
Dcbace
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15815
Posts: 144104

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10646
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation