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Real quick, were 86 src’s blued or did they follow the time frame of case hardened receivers?

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Blued or case hardened…………..

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So did they follow the same time line as the rest of the 86’s. CC til august 1901 then blued receivers?

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oldcrankyyankee said
So did they follow the same time line as the rest of the 86’s. CC til august 1901 then blued receivers?

  

Yes they did.

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I suppose they could be special ordered with CC after 08/01?

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steve004 said
I suppose they could be special ordered with CC after 08/01?

  

No, they could not.  When Winchester pulled the plug on case color finishing, they stuck by it.

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Sorry, been busy but this is my worry, Gun is a1898 manufacture and the receiver appears to be blued. Not much condition, condition, condition. But a legit src. Serial number search only confirms it as a src. Hmmmmm? 

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Pictures?

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Sorry Mr. H, I am not ignoring you its just I cant figure out how to get the pictures moved. I am not having any luck with this thing right now. The gun in question is on RIA august auction lot 25 if you are inclined to look, but they only have one picture shown. I bugged them for some  more and they emailed them thru my thing with them and cant figure out how to move them.

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Never say never with Winchester. I have a blued 1885 with 6 special order features made before they offered that finish. I sent detailed pics to Bert and he confirmed the blue to be original. Big Larry

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https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/86/25/antique-special-order-winchester-model-1886-saddle-ring-carbine

I agree, there should be more than just one photograph, but what makes you think this receiver wasn’t originally case coloured?  It looks typical of a little to no finish receiver Model 1886 that was originally case coloured  with weakened bluing on the loading gate, this having, of course, been originally blued.

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https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/86/25/antique-special-order-winchester-model-1886-saddle-ring-carbine

I agree, there should be more than just one photograph, but what makes you think this receiver wasn’t originally case coloured?  It looks typical of a little to no finish receiver Model 1886 that was originally case coloured  with weakened bluing on the loading gate, this having, of course, been originally blued.

  

I get the same impression… it was originally case color finished, and it has worn to a light brown patina.

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It’s nostalgic for me to see the old museum letters.  The one from Tom Hall from 1975 on this .38/56 SRC was a treat to see.  

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I’m grateful for the never ending eye on these thigs. Yes the only pic RIA shows is just terrible. They sent me a couple others and kind of the same thing just the other side,just looked weird. Upon further review it would appear its CC but severely worn. I too like the old letter from Tom Hall. Would be the oldest one I have in my collection. 

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OOPS I fibbed . Just re discovered a letter signed by Tom Hall on an 86 I have dated 1968.

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What you you guys think as far as the $$$ for this gun? List at 3-5k.

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What you you guys think as far as the $$$ for this gun? List at 3-5k.

  

I suppose it is likely to sell within the estimate range.  I’d be surprised if it would sell for more.  The .38/56 chambering and the very worn finish work against it.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the shotgun butt also works against it.  It seems most guys who want an ’86 SRC want one with a carbine butt.  

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I see RIA has another SRC coming up.  Similar amount of finish (i.e. about none) and the auction estimate is identical.  This one is a .45-70:

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/86/2/winchester-model-1886-lever-action-saddle-ring-carbine

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Thanks Steve for the input. Think I’ll wait for a little better one.

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