August 7, 2024
OfflineDear all
I have the possibility to buy a 1892 Winchester in .44 WCF, dated 1906.
Priced at 700 CHF, which ist around 900 USD
I added the pics I got.
the only concern is the front of the mag tube, otherwise I would go for it.
I bought by the seller before and trust him, when he says it operates smoothly and reliable with current ammo.
Any tips, suggestions?
Thank you all!








December 9, 2002
OfflineGoatkeeper,
I think you’re doing good with you’re pictures, and would like to see more, including the barrel address, and the serial number, and more detailed pics, and close ups.
The pitting on the Magazine tube looks to almost be pretty common, from these older firearms, and the split in the tube shows how it was made, although the seam was more commonly against the barrel, on some models, concealing it. Better pics could help us see this better. Especially, closer pics of the barrel, at the forearm wood, below the rear sight, where you show something on the barrel, as far as pitting or older cleaned up pits and/or markings on the side of the barrel.
Note that the wood, shows a straight stocked, checkered Walnut, “Deluxe Style”, (Collector term), checkered stock. A letter confirming this configuration, and the members here, (twobit/Michael), who are currently surveying this model, can add a lot more factory records information, verifying what you have, and they’re opinions, as they won’t steer you wrong.
I don’t think you could go wrong, at those numbers you posted, as from what I can see and tell, the carbine looks to be a good honest, src, and those were definitely used as tools, of the time. If it we’re me, and the barrel length measurements are correct, (I’m assuming 20 inches), and a closer inspection proved to be accurate, it would be a nice src to add. The pics certainly don’t look to be a cut barrel. It wouldn’t stop me from going after this piece at those numbers, as I like it! IMHO!
I would much rather see a Winchester like this, as many other would, than it or another one being cleaned up, and being refinished, or mi-represented.
Thanks for Sharing! 
Anthony
March 20, 2009
OfflineGood morning from Texas,
The checkering is definitely not factory original. I do not follow the Swiss/European market closely at all but have a little experience with it. The conversion from Swiss Franc to US is a reasonable price for the rifle. What is the full serial number of the gun? I can not quite make it out in the image.
Michael

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
August 7, 2024
OfflineAnthony said
Goatkeeper,
I think you’re doing good with you’re pictures, and would like to see more, including the barrel address, and the serial number, and more detailed pics, and close ups.
The pitting on the Magazine tube looks to almost be pretty common, from these older firearms, and the split in the tube shows how it was made, although the seam was more commonly against the barrel, on some models, concealing it. Better pics could help us see this better. Especially, closer pics of the barrel, at the forearm wood, below the rear sight, where you show something on the barrel, as far as pitting or older cleaned up pits and/or markings on the side of the barrel.
Note that the wood, shows a straight stocked, checkered Walnut, “Deluxe Style”, (Collector term), checkered stock. A letter confirming this configuration, and the members here, (twobit/Michael), who are currently surveying this model, can add a lot more factory records information, verifying what you have, and they’re opinions, as they won’t steer you wrong.
I don’t think you could go wrong, at those numbers you posted, as from what I can see and tell, the carbine looks to be a good honest, src, and those were definitely used as tools, of the time. If it we’re me, and the barrel length measurements are correct, (I’m assuming 20 inches), and a closer inspection proved to be accurate, it would be a nice src to add. The pics certainly don’t look to be a cut barrel. It wouldn’t stop me from going after this piece at those numbers, as I like it! IMHO!
I would much rather see a Winchester like this, as many other would, than it or another one being cleaned up, and being refinished, or mi-represented.
Thanks for Sharing!
Anthony
Thank you Anthony,
I placed my reservation, and waiting for the permit (and save some money 😉
August 7, 2024
Offlinetwobit said
Good morning from Texas,
The checkering is definitely not factory original. I do not follow the Swiss/European market closely at all but have a little experience with it. The conversion from Swiss Franc to US is a reasonable price for the rifle. What is the full serial number of the gun? I can not quite make it out in the image.
Michael
Thank you Michael,
I asked for the full serial number and let you know. I put down a reservation on the rifle and will get the necessary permit (and some cash 😉
I have a 1906 Winchester in .22 short from the same collector, so it will get a cool set…
Best, Thomas
August 7, 2024
Offlinetwobit said
Good morning from Texas,
The checkering is definitely not factory original. I do not follow the Swiss/European market closely at all but have a little experience with it. The conversion from Swiss Franc to US is a reasonable price for the rifle. What is the full serial number of the gun? I can not quite make it out in the image.
Michael
Michael, Serial Number is 323218…
December 9, 2002
Offlinetwobit said
Good morning from Texas,
The checkering is definitely not factory original. I do not follow the Swiss/European market closely at all but have a little experience with it. The conversion from Swiss Franc to US is a reasonable price for the rifle. What is the full serial number of the gun? I can not quite make it out in the image.
Michael
Michael,
I knew that you would verify the wood, and I would still pursue it, at the numbers the OP posted. Having that factual information, and now the serial number, I’m anxious to see what else is revealed on this early but not an Antique src!
Tony
March 20, 2009
OfflineGoatkeeper said
Thanks so much. You are in the survey!
Michael, now I am interested about that survey…
Here is the link to the survey questionnaire that I created back in 2015 which was about 4 years after I had started working on it. Since that time I have cataloged more than 22,300 individual rifles. This work, in conjunction with a detailed summarization of the information in the hand written production ledgers will finally give a much more accurate data supported determination of just what the various configurations of the Model 1892/92 were manufactured. https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-surveys/winchester-model-1892-all-rifle-survey/
If you know of any other Model 1892 rifles I would appreciate getting information on them to further add to the work. The support of other collectors from around the world in Australia, New Zealand, France, England, Germany Canada, Mexico, Argentina, South Africa, and Italy has really helped get a global sampling of these rifles.
Michael

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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