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I noticed a lack of pictures of members guns here lately. I thought some pictures might help with the winter time blues. So I had 10 minutes to myself and made a quick pop-up display of some 86 ELW’s. Hope you like
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November 7, 2015
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Thanks for brightening up a cold, damp, dreary day on my little spot on the prairie!
Mike
Tom –
You know how much I like these! Torturous that they don’t reside with me.
I think You’ve already seen these ones a while back
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry Mero said
I think You’ve already seen these ones a while back
Henry –
Beautiful –
I love them both. I think I’ve seen the ELW before but I don’t recall seeing the carbine. WOW – I would like to have that carbine! But of course would, both would be preferred 
Burt Humphrey said
Just 1 gun – but, high fructose. This one always wakes Tom up.
Beauty Burt!!😍
Rick C
oldcrankyyankee said
I noticed a lack of pictures of members guns here lately. I thought some pictures might help with the winter time blues. So I had 10 minutes to myself and made a quick pop-up display of some 86 ELW’s. Hope you like
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Tom, If [and I emphasize the “if”] I were wanting to lay in a very clean ELW 86 in.33 WCF, where would be the best place to look, pay market price but avoid being skinned alive? I am particularly interested in a fine bore because I would certainly plan to load for it and shoot hard cast lead.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Bill,
In my ongoing survey of the post-1899 production Model 1886, I have thus far found and documented just (8) ELW rifles in 33 WCF. I suspect that finding one that is reasonably priced will be a real challenge.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Well, I have to say,,,
Yes Burt that is my gun. High fructose is an understatement. I’m sorry I missed out on that one. The most beautiful 86 I ever layed eyes on. I still can’t believe you let that one go!
Bill, I have searched in earnest for ELW in 33 for awhile and so far have stuck out. I only know of two currently and neither one is going any where soon. I just hope that the owner of one that I talk to occasionally has mercy on me someday and lets me be the next care taker.
Bert, I am afraid you are correct about the ELW 33 affordability. Finding one has proven extremely difficult to this point. Finding one with a good deal of condition to match up to my current stable, I am afraid is a fools errand. BTW, in your surveys what other calibers have you found? Seems 45-70 and 45-90 are the most common as 45-70 was the advertised caliber.
oldcrankyyankee said
Bert, I am afraid you are correct about the ELW 33 affordability. Finding one has proven extremely difficult to this point. Finding one with a good deal of condition to match up to my current stable, I am afraid is a fools errand. BTW, in your surveys what other calibers have you found? Seems 45-70 and 45-90 are the most common as 45-70 was the advertised caliber.
Tom,
My Model 1886 survey covers serial numbers 120796 – 159999 (January 1900 to the end of production).
Thus far, I have documented (337) ELW rifles (Fancy, Plain Pistol Grip, and Standard). Of that number, (319) are 45-70s. The remaining caliber breakdown is as follows;
33 WCF = 8
38-56 WCF = 2
40-65 WCF = 1
40-82 WCF = 2
45-90 WCF = 6
I suspect that there are at least a few dozen 45-90 WCF ELW rifles with serial numbers < 120796.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
oldcrankyyankee said
Well, I have to say,,,Yes Burt that is my gun. High fructose is an understatement. I’m sorry I missed out on that one. The most beautiful 86 I ever layed eyes on. I still can’t believe you let that one go!
Bill, I have searched in earnest for ELW in 33 for awhile and so far have stuck out. I only know of two currently and neither one is going any where soon. I just hope that the owner of one that I talk to occasionally has mercy on me someday and lets me be the next care taker.
Bert, I am afraid you are correct about the ELW 33 affordability. Finding one has proven extremely difficult to this point. Finding one with a good deal of condition to match up to my current stable, I am afraid is a fools errand. BTW, in your surveys what other calibers have you found? Seems 45-70 and 45-90 are the most common as 45-70 was the advertised caliber.
Tom – not the 33 you want but you would like the gun.
Bert H. said
oldcrankyyankee said
Bert, I am afraid you are correct about the ELW 33 affordability. Finding one has proven extremely difficult to this point. Finding one with a good deal of condition to match up to my current stable, I am afraid is a fools errand. BTW, in your surveys what other calibers have you found? Seems 45-70 and 45-90 are the most common as 45-70 was the advertised caliber.
Tom,
My Model 1886 survey covers serial numbers 120796 – 159999 (January 1900 to the end of production).
Thus far, I have documented (337) ELW rifles (Fancy, Plain Pistol Grip, and Standard). Of that number, (319) are 45-70s. The remaining caliber breakdown is as follows;
33 WCF = 8
38-56 WCF = 2
40-65 WCF = 1
40-82 WCF = 2
45-90 WCF = 6
I suspect that there are at least a few dozen 45-90 WCF ELW rifles with serial numbers < 120796.
Bert
Bert I suspect you are correct on 45-90 ELW’s as I have personally observed no less than eight, if memory serves correct, although I do believe 2 were fake hence forth they remained with their current owners. Of course I am not collecting info like you do. Which by the way is very much appreciated. I did once see a deluxe in 45-90 that tripped my trigger unfortunately I lost out to another member on it. Was gut wrenching. I did suspect there were a small handful made in 40-82 as it was a fairly popular caliber. Sure would be a great addition here! well thanks for the info and I will keep looking for those pesky ELW’s.
Burt Humphrey said
oldcrankyyankee said
Well, I have to say,,,
Yes Burt that is my gun. High fructose is an understatement. I’m sorry I missed out on that one. The most beautiful 86 I ever layed eyes on. I still can’t believe you let that one go!
Bill, I have searched in earnest for ELW in 33 for awhile and so far have stuck out. I only know of two currently and neither one is going any where soon. I just hope that the owner of one that I talk to occasionally has mercy on me someday and lets me be the next care taker.
Bert, I am afraid you are correct about the ELW 33 affordability. Finding one has proven extremely difficult to this point. Finding one with a good deal of condition to match up to my current stable, I am afraid is a fools errand. BTW, in your surveys what other calibers have you found? Seems 45-70 and 45-90 are the most common as 45-70 was the advertised caliber.
Tom – not the 33 you want but you would like the gun.
Burt you really do know how to turn me inside out! Of course I would like that gun, the letter reads like a book. It would be a great match to the bottom one in my picture. That one is a 45-70 with a 3/4 mag.
Some of you must like teasing dogs. Looking at these images encourages me to go back through my old embezzlement case files to get tips and advice before the next Cody show.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Zebulon said
Some of you must like teasing dogs. Looking at these images encourages me to go back through my old embezzlement case files to get tips and advice before the next Cody show.
Bill, I see it more like teasing kids with candy. In my case flash me a good 86 and I just start drooling. lol.
Tom, I’m adding you to my list of culprits to loudly blame if my wife ever sees the invoice of a really choice 86 LW .33 Winchester. Hartman’s name leads all the rest, so far.
Those rifles seem to be made of forged and milled Unobtainium.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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