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A letterable Model 1894 deluxe case hardened, take-down, matted barrel rifle coming up
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https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/catalog/403251/fall-2022-auction/?q=winchester+1894

Lot 4064

This one looks good to me. Nice that it is antique status.  Given it letters, the only variable I would be concerned about is whether any of the finish been helped in any way?  I’d want to hold it in my hands before I bid.  But it checks a lot of boxes as a collectible 1894.  I love the case hardened receiver and matted barrel options.  Pistol grip checkered wood and takedown are nice features too Cool

Anyone else drooling?

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I don’t buy guns like this based upon pictures.  But, it appears OK except for the sling eyes.

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Why are so many Deluxe rifles returned for repair? This one may have had the swivels add at this time. 

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Why are so many Deluxe rifles returned for repair? This one may have had the swivels add at this time. 

  

Could be the swivels were added at that time.  If the swivel and the installation look originally, I usually don’t hold that against a rifle if they are not mentioned in the ledger.  Particularly, if there are many special order features, we often find that not all get listed.  This is typical with the Marlin ledgers as well.  With the Marlin, most frustrating of all is that when factory engraving is present, it is often not noted in the ledger!

As to why many Deluxe rifles seem to be return for repair, that something interesting to speculate about.  Perhaps because the customer who takes the time to special order a rifle and pay extra for the fancy version, he is someone who gives more thought to the details of his rifle than a customer who just buys a rifle off the shelf to hunt with.  He is someone who has a clearer idea of what he wants and has specific preferences – he wants his rifle to be just so.  Hence, he ships it back to the factory as part of an evolving vision.  For me, this is more plausible than the idea that fancy rifles break more often.  If anything, one would think a fancy rifle would receive more care and less hard use than a standard rifle.

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Steve I really liked Lot 4069 and the estimated price. The estimate was far below the final hammer price. I can’t copy and paste the gun for some reason. 

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Steve I really liked Lot 4069 and the estimated price. The estimate was far below the final hammer price. I can’t copy and paste the gun for some reason. 

  

Rick – I really liked it too.  The low end of the auction estimate was quite appealing.  Not surprisingly, that did not come to pass.  Let’s see if this link works:

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/lot/134712247/exceptionally-rare-case-colored-winchester-1894?q=winchester+1894

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steve004 said

RickC said

Steve I really liked Lot 4069 and the estimated price. The estimate was far below the final hammer price. I can’t copy and paste the gun for some reason. 

  

Rick – I really liked it too.  The low end of the auction estimate was quite appealing.  Not surprisingly, that did not come to pass.  Let’s see if this link works:

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/lot/134712247/exceptionally-rare-case-colored-winchester-1894?q=winchester+1894

  

This one here below Steve.

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/lot/134712262/winchester-model-1894-semi-deluxe-takedown-lever?q=winchester+1894

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RickC said

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RickC said

Steve I really liked Lot 4069 and the estimated price. The estimate was far below the final hammer price. I can’t copy and paste the gun for some reason. 

  

Rick – I really liked it too.  The low end of the auction estimate was quite appealing.  Not surprisingly, that did not come to pass.  Let’s see if this link works:

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/lot/134712247/exceptionally-rare-case-colored-winchester-1894?q=winchester+1894

  

This one here below Steve.

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/lot/134712262/winchester-model-1894-semi-deluxe-takedown-lever?q=winchester+1894

  

I see.  Sold for more than double the high end of the auction estimate.  Nice gun.  Nice chambering.  I’m not surprised it didn’t see within the auction estimate.

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Yes beautiful gun. I guess they originally thought a semi deluxe wouldn’t fetch what it did. Not like they would estimate it low on purpose. 

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Nice piece, I was in there up to $32500.00 but just couldn’t do any more, with the Canada/ U.S. dollar difference right now , at $32500.00 that would have cost Me app. $65000.00 Cdn., with all the fees and taxes, by time it landed at My door.

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steve004 said

cjs57 said

Why are so many Deluxe rifles returned for repair? This one may have had the swivels add at this time. 

  

Could be the swivels were added at that time.  If the swivel and the installation look originally, I usually don’t hold that against a rifle if they are not mentioned in the ledger.  Particularly, if there are many special order features, we often find that not all get listed.  This is typical with the Marlin ledgers as well.  With the Marlin, most frustrating of all is that when factory engraving is present, it is often not noted in the ledger!

As to why many Deluxe rifles seem to be return for repair, that something interesting to speculate about.  Perhaps because the customer who takes the time to special order a rifle and pay extra for the fancy version, he is someone who gives more thought to the details of his rifle than a customer who just buys a rifle off the shelf to hunt with.  He is someone who has a clearer idea of what he wants and has specific preferences – he wants his rifle to be just so.  Hence, he ships it back to the factory as part of an evolving vision.  For me, this is more plausible than the idea that fancy rifles break more often.  If anything, one would think a fancy rifle would receive more care and less hard use than a standard rifle.

  

I do this with custom stuff. I can see that. 

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