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Whats the best way to ship long guns?
September 8, 2009
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Bert H. said
Marty,

State regulations do take precedence as long as they do not usurp the federal regulations. In addition to New Jersey's draconian laws, several other states are not far behind. Fortunately, Washington State follows the federal regulations to the "T"... so send all of you old Winchesters to me for safe keeping ๐Ÿ˜›

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Geeze Bert...between you and Michael in TX I'd have to sell most of my collection to have enough airfare just to visit the 3 or 4 remaining rifles.... Cry Marty

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Yes, but at least I will provide you with comfort of knowing that they are in good hands, and in addition, I will provide you with free room & board during your visits Laugh

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This might be a little off the subject, but I just wanted to mention something about shipping firearms that I just found out.

Apparently, new reproductions of Antique firearms are also considered Antiques under the laws of California.

I just received two new historical reproduction revolvers (made in Italy) here in California that were shipped from a company in Nebraska via UPS.

Fortunately, they got here in fine condition, so I didn't have to find out about how good the insurance thing is with UPS.

By the way, they came with a ammo kits also, except for the percussion caps.

The state of California is in the process of trying to pass some more very restrictive new laws regarding ammo purchases in person and online. So, chances are that in awhile, I won't be able to make any similar purchases online in the future.

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September 9, 2009
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[quote="Bert H
Yes, but at least I will provide you with comfort of knowing that they are in good hands, and in addition, I will provide you with free room & board during your visits Laugh

Bert[/quote]

Sounds great Bert! I know the rifles will feel at home and I especially like the dinning aspects. I know you submariners eat pretty well! But I also understand you deep blue wanderers sleep on 24" stacked bunk beds ....We ole AF guys are used to the a bit more space around us.. ๐Ÿ™„ Marty

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twobit said
Marty,

Let me know when you are coming through the airport. I can come up and say hello and chat a bit. Security has t oeasier than shipping rifles into NJ.

I am serious. PM me and we can get together.
Michael

Michael,

That'd be fine, I too would like to meet you, and possibly visit an old friend that used to reside in my gun room. But I think there's only 45 mins. between flights, which usually means a mad dash to the next gate, and I don't think we could leave the secured Gate areas, even in Houston.... ๐Ÿ™

We go to San Diego about twice a yr....this trip is for my son's wedding.

Maybe on our next trip?
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Marty

November 30, 2009
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Im a bit late with this but I just sent a Winchester 1873 made in 1891 to a gunsmith in my home state. I had my son take the rifle to the UPS/FEDX/USPS store to wrap and ship. I live in a small town with only one such store. They refused to send the rifle. Said he needed a copy of the dealers license. I also had a few fired cases and a couple of dummy rounds made up for the gunsmith to use. They said it would have to be in a separate box. So, I called the post office. I explained the situation and they said no problems. I also asked about the insurance ($1500.00) and they said it could be done. I packed it up and took it over to the post office. I wish I had read this thread before I sent it as I should have taken pictures. Thanking all of you for the info. Bob

March 26, 2010
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I had a bad experience using UPS. I shipped a model 42 deluxe through UPS. In transit the buttstock was broken even though it was well packed. They would not honor the insurance I purchased. I was told they would not honor the insurance because it was 1) a firearm, and 2) they were a local branch of the UPS, not an official UPS store. I fought them as long as I could and finally gave up. I had shipped scores of guns that way only to find out when I needed it most that the insurance I purchased with each shipment wasnt worth the paper on which it was printed. From that point forward I have been shipping through the USPS.

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March 26, 2010
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Chris,

How did you pack the gun? what type of UPS service did you use? How much insurance did you put on it?

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March 26, 2010
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Its been about 3 years ago but I think it was likely placed in a soft case, wrapped with bubble wrap, packed with peanuts, and fit into a rigid cardboard box. I think what happened is the thing got dropped hard on one end or something. The buttstock was split at the top next to the receiver from what I remember. We used the local UPS store, a locally owned UPS franchise store, something to that effect. The insurance purchased was equivalent to the dollar value of the gun. I was able to finding another 42 stock and the customer was happy, I was out the money though.

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March 26, 2010
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Whenever I ship a gun or have one shipped to me I put it in a soft case then in a hard case with extra packing around it then the hard case goes inside a cardboard box with no indication that its a gun inside. If the gun has real fancy grain and I'm worried about the stock I will remove it and pack it separately. You didn't mention what service you used but I ship them Next Day service on a Monday or Tuesday, never towards the end of the week so it has no possibility of sitting still over a weekend. If you insure for a high amount it gets special handling even thou you can't collect on it.

What service have been using with the USPS and how has been working?

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March 26, 2010
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I always send them two day priority through USPS and havent had any problems. They always arrive on time and I havent had one damaged since then.

Your right though, if your shipping higher end guns the best way to pack is a soft case, wrapped in packing material, inside a hard case, with an outer cardboard box. And as you said, its best to ship the first few days of the week so it doesnt sit around over the weekend somewhere.

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March 28, 2010
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Very nice Winchester, Congratulations.

As far as shipping I have sent many a rifle USPS Priority Mail and never had one problem.

Lucky I guess.

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April 23, 2010
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I always use usps express. Most places in the USA they get them in one day,sometimes two days.Usually cost me 50 - 80.00. Well worth it . You can see where the gun is every evening. It even shows me who signed for it. No lost guns and very happy customers.

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I've always prided myself on my packing and usually have double boxed items and used a lot of packing materials around the rifle. I have since come to see the hardcase is the way to go. After laying the gun (already in a soft case) in the hard case, I typically break off pieces of inch thick styrofoam and place them all around the gun. This also keeps it from moving in the case. I also tape the ends of the hard case shut with duct tape. I have seen rifles shipped by simply placing them in the hard case and if the box gets slammed hard, the rifle can be propelled forward in the hard case and the barrel can shoot right through the seam and then punch through the end of the box. Not a good scenario. I know another fellow who always builds a triangle shaped box - that way other boxes cannot be set on top of it - which happens frequently. Picture this - a boxed rifle is set on top of two boxes spaced fairly far apart (so there is no support underneath it in the middle). Then a heavy box is set on top of the gun - in the middle. The box will sag very easily as cardboard has little strength up against a scenario like this. The hard case will maintain its rigidity dramatically better in such a situation. I find when I sell a rifle most buyers are happy to add $10 or $15 for a hardcase. I buy many trifles his way and then just recycle the cases when I sell something and recoup my cost.

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By the way, I would never ship a rifle through a UPS store or business that contracts to take packages for UPS. I would be concerned that the insurance would be honored if damage occurred and one of the earlier posts on this topic certainly validates my fear.

One of the reasons I switched to hardcases had to do with a rifle I shipped that was broken in shipment. It was a custom M1917 Enfield and it was completely broken in two at the wrist. This rifle had a custom stock that happened to be quite stout at the wrist and it would be about as easy to break that stock at the wrist as it would be take a two x four and break it in half. Curiously, the box showed absolutely no damage, sign of rough handling or anything. And I had double-boxed and used lots of packing inside. It will forever be a mystery what happened. However, UPS did honor the claim and paid up. I will add another caution with regard to be prepared to support the value of a rifle if a claim is made. Typically, UPS wants to see the invoice of something (i.e. what you paid for it at an established business) to determine its value. So, it you purchase a new rifle at a store, and then ship it off - if the rifle is damaged, simply send them your invoice from the purchase and you are good. Unfortunately, such documentation is often unavailable for vintage and collectable rifles. For the M1917 custom Enfield I mentioned, I was able to snake my way through the process by having a local FFL dealer in collectable rifles write me up an appraisal of the rifle. This made all the difference in establishing the value. So, when you ship something and specifiy the amount of insurance you want to purchase, give some thought as to how you are going to document that value to perhaps some very narrow-minded and uninformed claims people who may well be anti-gun. These claims people have a job where they are certainly not told to be flexible and generous. What probably doesn't work for establishing the value is documentation of what the buyer paid for the rifle, or a copy of a page from a, "Blue Book." I am sometimes amazed at people I have seen who "over-insure" a rifle. They seem to think if that is the value they specify - because the counter person accepted it, that is what they will receive if a claim is made. This is called throwing money away.

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I have received three rifles in the past month. One each from Fed Ex, UPS, and USPS and not had any problem with any of them. I ship to my office so that nothing gets left at the gate in front of the house, Yes there is no tracking with USPS but I have not had a problem with them for five different rifles. There is a slight difficulty with being patient, The tracking option is nice so you can sit there like an expecting father just waiting for your rifle!!! I can understand the Fed Ex problem with a lost label since all the shipping world lives and dies by the bar code and a scanner.

Avoid having it left at the gate by insisting the shipper ship it to you USPS with signature confirmation.

If you are not home the postman will leave a little paper slip and you can go pick it up at the post office the next day.

Also, U-Haul sell a roll of foam sheets that works better for me than bubble wrap and the Fed-Ex store has long thin ski boxes that will handle any long gun I have ever had to ship.

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USPS can be a nightmare. Recent shipping with the postal service via registered, priority, insured with tracking numbers. Took almost 3 weeks! The post office showed acceptance here in Boise, Idaho then to SLC, then NOTHING! Post office here only had the same information I could get online with the tracking number.
After nearly 3 weeks, the buyer on the other end wound up flaming all over the USPS at his end and finally they coughed it up in one day with NO explanation...
The following week with UPS delivering to me with 3 day insured. It actually got here in 3 days with excellent tracking information.
I'll never use the post office again.
Hard case within a box is the only way to go.

July 29, 2012
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When you ship USPS registered it has to be signed for at at every hand off and when its not in transit it has to be locked up, that what slows up the process.

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Anyone know the best source to purchase a single hard case that comes in an outer carboard box? That way the you already have a well fitted cardboard box to ship the hardcased gun in.

November 27, 2012
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Check your local stores first other wise if you catalog order one you might get stuck with shipping but either way take the cardboard box and turn it inside out so there is no words that say "gun case"

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I have not shipped a whole lot of firearms, but when I do they go USPS, period. There are simply all too many horror stories with the other shippers.

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