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Sight question for the experts
April 4, 2013
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I know the pre 22 series Sporting rear sights on M1892's and M1894's,were originally serrated, but when did they stop this practice? I know there would be holdovers, but on a M53? Thanks, Big Larry

April 6, 2013
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Big Larry

I don't know much about Model 1892s and 53s. The 1925 Winchester catalog I have says standard for M 53 is "a Sporting Rear sight with sliding elevator and a Lyman gold bead front sight". Hard to tell in the catalog illustration but it kind of looks like a 22 Series Flat Top Sporting Rear Sight.

From what I've seen I think the serrations are less common by roughly 1910-15 on the 22 Series Sporting Rear Sights. That's what I've been seeing on the Model 1894s I'm looking at anyway. I don't know any exact dates. There could always be overlap like you mentioned I guess. Catalog illustrations of rear sights in my 1920-30s catalogs don't show serrations. I only have five from those years and only two of them have decent sight pictures.

Hope that helps a little.

Brad

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April 6, 2013
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One of my rifles with the serrated sight is my 1902 vintage M1892. The other is a 1907 vintage M1894. It must be close to yours at # 348731, just low enough to letter. I also have a 1911 vintage M1892 with no serrations. My 1907 late M1894 and October 1910 M1894 has the pre 22's without serrations. So 1907 vintage rifles are found both ways. I would not feel comfortable with serrated edges on a Rocky Mt. or flat top of M53 vintage. Something tells me that is wrong. Bottom of the bin again??? Thanks, Big Larry

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The sporting rear sight on an 1890 I have has the serrations on it, and it dates to 1907, I believe it is. The Sight Book notes that the checking of sights was discontinued on 2/18/08. And although there is a note having to do with early sporting rear sights being checked, and later ones having serrations, I did not find any more references about the the latter feature. Which causes me to think that both practices might have been discontinued on the same date. I'd also think that the sight on the model 53 "might" have been at the bottom of the bin as you mention.

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April 7, 2013
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Big Larry,

I am not tracking serrated vs. non in my survey of 1892's. If I can find the time to go through the +1000 rifles that I have images on (including SRC's) I may be able to come up with some sort of rough SN range.

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JWM94 said
The sporting rear sight on an 1890 I have has the serrations on it, and it dates to 1907, I believe it is. The Sight Book notes that the checking of sights was discontinued on 2/18/08. And although there is a note having to do with early sporting rear sights being checked, and later ones having serrations, I did not find any more references about the the latter feature. Which causes me to think that both practices might have been discontinued on the same date. I'd also think that the sight on the model 53 "might" have been at the bottom of the bin as you mention.

James

Quite a stretch for a 1934 M53 I would say. The rifle is in near mint condition and I will be seeing it at the Reno show Wednesday. My bro in law paid over $4,000 for this M53 in 44 WCF. Thanks, Big Larry

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