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February 11, 2013 - 8:17 am
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Does this look good? Minty 1928 M92. Very expensive and I want to buy it. Thanks, Big Larry

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February 11, 2013 - 8:46 am
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I dont see any blue missing around the reciever from when it was stamped. That is usually a sign of a reblue.

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February 11, 2013 - 10:05 am
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Here is another view. No marks as to steel type??? Big Larry

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February 11, 2013 - 11:01 am
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I’m seeing a mark on the top of the barrel probable where a barrel sight rode. It should be shinny metal color but it looks blued.

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February 11, 2013 - 12:03 pm
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Looking at a couple of my near mint M94’s from that era, and the proofs show bright where they were stamped. I passed on this carbine. Thanks to all. Big Larry

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February 11, 2013 - 7:35 pm
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The actual proof markings look a little funny to me.

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February 13, 2013 - 11:28 am
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I have looked at proof marks on a lot of original finish Winchesters (many were M70s made from 1936 to 1963) and only a small fraction had bright metal at the bottom of the stamping. Over the years, the bright metal that was there originally usually faded–perhaps lightly rusted. I rely more on raised metal around the proof mark (which gets buffed off with careless rebluing) and other clues like polishing marks and color. Pre-war rifles with rust blued barrels are hard to fake perfectly when reblued. Of course, on lever actions, always check to ensure that the radiused edges are razor sharp as they were when they left the factory. Buffing often rounds them slightly.

All proofmarks are not alike and you can be fooled both ways–accepting a re-blue as original and rejecting an original as a re-blue. Problems can arise when a rifle is "mint." Sometimes that results in buyers being overly suspicous and they may pass on an original rifle.

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February 13, 2013 - 11:14 pm
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Larry:

I believe that you made a smart decision!

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February 14, 2013 - 5:27 am
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Larry,

There is definitely something funky with that rifle. I just got some photos of it and the receiver definitely has been refinished.

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February 14, 2013 - 8:59 am
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Using my collector brain and some great advice from folks here on this forum, I did determine the gun to be redone. In my collection I have M1894’s from 1903 to 1960. Looking at the proofs on these guns, especially from 1913 on through the 30’s, I find all the proofs to be circled by white metal, probably came through in later years from the stamping of the proof.
I want to thank everyone who responded to my post. We have some real nice folks here. Big Larry

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February 15, 2013 - 6:25 pm
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Smart choice Larry!

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February 16, 2013 - 8:53 am
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Thanks Tony. I should have come to you in the first place for M92 questions. Still hanging on to my 3 rifles and one carbine. All 44’s of course. Thanks, Big Larry

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