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January 26, 2011
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Here’s another verified factory cast off stock. This time its on an 1886. I could barely believe it the first time and now a third one has surfaced. Talk about one of a kind Winchesters.
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/62/lid/31
A link to the thread about the other two Michael acquired……
http://forum.winchestercollector.org/viewtopic.php?t=6024&highlight=cast+1892
~Gary~
I like it!!! Nice looking rifle.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Has anyone seen a pistol grip such as the one pictured on a Winchester 1886 before (or, 1892 or 1894, for that matter!). That pictured is more like that seen on a shotgun, such as an Ithaca or A H Fox. Is the stock original? Probably so, due to the difficulty of fabricating such a stock. But, maybe not???
The Cody letter states 1/4" more cast than standard, but the stock has at least 2" of cast??
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I read the Winchester Letter as:
1/4" more cast off, and 1/2" more drop, than Sample Stock.
I would take that as being, Winchester might have made up a stock with less dimensions and the buyer needed more cast off and drop.
Enjoy the day.
"I Would Have Rather Lived Through The Industrial Revaluation"
"Instead of The Space Age"
From
The Twilight Zone
Hokie wrote:
I read the Winchester Letter as:
1/4" more cast off, and 1/2" more drop, than Sample Stock.
I would take that as being, Winchester might have made up a stock with less dimensions and the buyer needed more cast off and drop.
That is what I would interpret also. For something as dramatic as this it is not hard to believe that a sample would have been sent in order to get it correct "the first time" instead of trial and multiple errors.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
I believe that you fellows are correct. When I read the letter the first time, I mistakenly read "sample" as "standard".
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
What about the pistol grip? Have you ever seen one like this on a Winchester from that era? I have not.
Looks like a Standard Pistol Grip Stock to me, for that time period.
It just looks deceiving with the extra cast off and extra drop.
Or the Buyer might have had it made that way, being there are so many other options with that Winchester. Especially the Stock.
Enjoy the Day.
"I Would Have Rather Lived Through The Industrial Revaluation"
"Instead of The Space Age"
From
The Twilight Zone
No, it looks more like a knob. There is no capped pistol grip or, on earlier firearms, the uncapped pistol grip with the ebony insert. I just have never seen an pistol grip like this one on a Winchester before.
mrcvs said
No, it looks more like a knob. There is no capped pistol grip or, on earlier firearms, the uncapped pistol grip with the ebony insert. I just have never seen an pistol grip like this one on a Winchester before.
It looks like the grip on the 1887 and 1893
Ok, Let me rephrase my answer.
Evidently, the buyer of that Winchester wanted the stock made that way.
Which I was referring to that time frame, not a ordinary Winchester Stock.
Lets face it it was a Special Order 1886 Winchester and that is what the original buyer wanted.
Enjoy the Day.
"I Would Have Rather Lived Through The Industrial Revaluation"
"Instead of The Space Age"
From
The Twilight Zone
Merz had a 94 a while back with that same grip. He called it a bag grip. I think the stock had extra drop too.
Pdog72 Wote:
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/62/lid/31
A link to the thread about the other two Michael acquired……
http://forum.winchestercollector.org/viewtopic.php?t=6024&highlight=cast+1892
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The three will be together soon!!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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