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I’m trying to find out what the P S after the serial number on this 66 stands for?? For years I have had good intentions of getting it lettered and just haven’t done it. I am also open to any other thoughts on this gun, whether good or bad.
WINCHESTER BABE
You can’t get a letter for it. They don’t have records below 125,000.
I believe the letters are a form of assemble marks . Is there anything stamped on the side of the tang?
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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1873man said
You can’t get a letter for it. They don’t have records below 125,000.I believe the letters are a form of assemble marks . Is there anything stamped on the side of the tang?
Bob
Good info. On all the pics I have I cant see anything stamped on the side of the tang but I want to check it when I get home to be sure. Thank u
WINCHESTER BABE
I have often wondered if it was sent back to the factory and the “ps” was added at that time, since they are obviously a different stamp than the SN. If so, is it possible that there would be a record of it coming back to the factory?
Bert. do you have an opinion about this gun?
WINCHESTER BABE
WinchesterBabe said
I have often wondered if it was sent back to the factory and the “ps” was added at that time, since they are obviously a different stamp than the SN. If so, is it possible that there would be a record of it coming back to the factory?Bert. do you have an opinion about this gun?
I do not know what the “ps” represents, but I am fairly certain it does not indicate that it was returned to the factory. Even if it was returned to the factory, there is no possible way to verify it, as the “R&R” entry was written in the original ledger book, and those records are long gone. The nickel plating looks correct, but it the condition its in, it does nothing for the collector value.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Initial thought is Plating and Silver but no reason to put it out on the lower tang. Possibly on the inside of the tang but even that would be a little curious.
Casey,
It might be the pictures, or my steadily worsening eyesight, but the plating looks like it is the more common nickel plating. Like you, I do not believe that Winchester would have marked the exterior of the receiver to denote plating.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I am very thankful for all of these comments. Madis appraised this gun in 2000 and called it original with nickel plating but made no reference to the “ps”.
WINCHESTER BABE
Bert H. said
I do not know what the “ps” represents, but I am fairly certain it does not indicate that it was returned to the factory. Even if it was returned to the factory, there is no possible way to verify it, as the “R&R” entry was written in the original ledger book, and those records are long gone. The nickel plating looks correct, but it the condition its in, it does nothing for the collector value.
Bert
I want to pull this gun out to take better pics, I was very disappointed in their quality but based on this excerpt from Madis’ book and the interest you see on the market for the Model 66, AKA the “Winchester Repeating Rifle”, what dollar figure would you place on the gun?
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
WinchesterBabe said
I want to pull this gun out to take better pics, I was very disappointed in their quality but based on this excerpt from Madis’ book and the interest you see on the market for the Model 66, AKA the “Winchester Repeating Rifle”, what dollar figure would you place on the gun?
Darlene
I would prefer to see the “better” pictures before taking a stab at the value. Seeing the gun in person would be even better.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Winchester Babe, I have bought two 66 carbines in the last six months, one from Leroy and one at Tulsa, both third models, so I have a handle on going prices. Hard core 66 collectors like brass, nickle plate guns do not bring as much, coupled with the recent price roll back in the market I would guess $7500. Bert is right, better pictures might move the number either way. Just a guess. T/R
TR said
Hard core 66 collectors like brass, nickle plate guns do not bring as much, . . .. T/R
I’m not a hard core 66 collector, but I agree with them. I have a full nickel 66 SRC and I’d *much* rather have a mustard and patina OBFMCB. Side note: The only thing I like about carbines is the saddle ring. I think they look great.
All of this is good info! Bert I would love to show you this one and a few others in person one day. I can see the point y’all are making about the yellow patina being more desirable, it is definitely more pleasing to the eye than scattered nickel plating.
To answer the other gentleman’s question about the appraisal, in 2000 Madis valued the gun at $7500. I am blessed to have his written opinion on several of these Winchesters and also during the same period of time a man named Ross Roberts did an appraisal of them and some Colt revolvers.
Ever since I came home from the Old West show in Ft. Worth last week, the steakhouse has had me strapped, maybe I will get time soon to take some decent pics.
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
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