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This is from that same auction that the 36 inch barreled single-shot didn’t sell at. Apparently they couldn’t get past $1400 on the rare single-shot. Yet this mess hammers at $3700?
https://www.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1876-SRC/lotInformation/72652002
The problem is the gun does not letter as a 50 but 45-75.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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1873man said
The problem is the gun does not letter as a 50 but 45-75.
Where does it say that in the description? Perhaps the high bidder didn’t know that.
November 7, 2015
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1873man said
The problem is the gun does not letter as a 50 but 45-75.Bob
Did Winchester chamber any 1876 SRC’s in 50-95? Letter says “Rifle” and octagon barrel. Strike three.
Mike
in the 1876 ledgers when it states “rifle” or “carbine” etc and no mention of caliber they are referring to the 45-75 as the 45-75 was considered the standard caliber
Jeremy Scott.
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TXGunNut said
1873man said
The problem is the gun does not letter as a 50 but 45-75.
Bob
Did Winchester chamber any 1876 SRC’s in 50-95? Letter says “Rifle” and octagon barrel. Strike three.
Mike
they made 24 50-95 carbines.
Jeremy Scott.
WACA LIFE MEMBER, CFM MEMBER, ABKA MEMBER, JSSC MEMBER, MNO HISTORIAN
If the ledgers don’t state a caliber its then the standard caliber for that model just like they did for the 73 which is 44.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
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1873man said
If the ledgers don’t state a caliber its then the standard caliber for that model just like they did for the 73 which is 44.Bob
Agreed, but the casual buyer doesn’t know that and some internet sellers either don’t know or don’t bother to point it out. Made it easier to mark the lifter with the new chambering as well since it was probably not marked when manufactured.
Mike
That “carbine” looks to me like it has had the stocks sanded and cold blue applied to the metal surfaces.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
1873man said
The problem is the gun does not letter as a 50 but 45-75.Bob
Not only does it not letter as a .50-95, it doesn’t even letter as a carbine. Someone has taken a receiver from a .45-75, added a carbine buttstock and forearm and added some .50-95 parts. I’m referring to the elevator block and the dust cover (which looks suspect to me). The barrel looks reworked from who knows what.
I don’t think the winning bidder, nor the penultimate bidder, looked at any of this. I think all they saw was that it was 50 cal.
mrcvs said
I don’t think the winning bidder, nor the penultimate bidder, looked at any of this. I think all they saw was that it was 50 cal.
Could that illustrate what’s meant by the phrase “more money than brains”?
That particular auction was full of “put together” Winchesters with major replacement parts, many of which had reproduction barrels that were amateurishly aged. Many of the descriptions even noted the problems. I was looking at several of them for parts guns. Unfortunately, they didn’t go for parts gun prices. Many bid right up to prices I would expect to see for correct originals. Mark
Mark Douglas said
That particular auction was full of “put together” Winchesters with major replacement parts, many of which had reproduction barrels that were amateurishly aged. Many of the descriptions even noted the problems. I was looking at several of them for parts guns. Unfortunately, they didn’t go for parts gun prices. Many bid right up to prices I would expect to see for correct originals. Mark
Mark –
I think we have been observing more and more of this. Part of this can be explained by buyers with more money than experience (or brains). But I think it is becoming more the case that a lack of originality is noted, but for a growing group, it just doesn’t matter all that much to them
Mark Douglas said I was looking at several of them for parts guns. Unfortunately, they didn’t go for parts gun prices. Many bid right up to prices I would expect to see for correct originals. Mark
I’ve repeatedly tried to buy defective scopes, sights, similar stuff on ebay for parts, but knowing what’s wrong is no advantage at all when bidding against those too ignorant to recognize the problems; and there are PLENTY of them active on all on-line venues.
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