Chuck said
I don’t really have a problem with a honest guy that doesn’t know guns well or even the honest ones that do but says gun is unfired.  What he often means is that it is such great shape it looks like it is unfired.  It is only the gun dealers that I worry about.  

It’s just the manufactured hype that sometimes gets to me.  I know it shouldn’t.  However, I’ve been noting how much getting older and crankiness seem to go hand in hand.  The list of things that annoy me seems to grow every day 😉

Chuck said

I have a 10 year jump on you in the grouchiness department, believe me.  My daughter reminded me of that last night.   

You’re not giving me much hope for the whatever version of me there will be 10 years from now.  Although I suppose if there is any version at all, that’s a bonus.

I would agree there is value to this carbine.  I’m sure there is a market for it.  Not everyone who buys a gun is a picky collector.  In fact, even for me, I wouldn’t say the carbine has no appeal. It’s just that Winchesters that are all original have more appeal to me.  It should be no surprise that as this is a collector site, most here place the factor of originality on the very top.  Our primary interest and focus is discussing vintage pieces that have not been altered.