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My 92 year old aunt had to move to a home for the elderly. When I was emptying her apartment, I stumbled over this old rifle, wrapped in a newspaper from 1962. Probably left there by her husband who had died back in 1984. It was hidden behind his old clothes witch was still hanging in the closet after all these years. It turned out to be a Winchester 1894, round barrel, take down, manufactured the same year. Having a rifle without having a license is strictly forbidden i Sweden so I got in contact with an legal armsdealer who was more than willing to help me get the rifle registered and legal. -This took almost two years… Authorities work pretty slow… So, now finally the rifle will be put up for sale on an auktion here in Sweden. I have no idea of the value or what to expect from an auktion. Should this rifle be sold in the States in stead?

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Hello Johan,

The serial number on your Model 1894 tells us that it was actually manufactured in December, 1895. The pictures you provided the link to show that it has been altered from its original as manufactured condition. Specifically, the trigger is not factory original. I also suspect that the barrel may not be original. Accordingly, No, it should not be sold in here in the States.

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Hello Bert.

Thank you for helping me. I guess I was wrong about the year of manufacturing. I had found this site: https://www.vintagegunscopes.com/winchester-serialization where the serial number was listed as manufactured in 1894. However your answer made me Google a bit more and… Of course, you are right. Being a novis when it comes to firearms I guess I can trust your assumtions about the trigger and barrel as well.

So, I guess I will let the armsdealer sell it at the auktion here in Sweden.

Thank you again!

/Johan

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Johan Andersson said
Authorities work pretty slow… So, now finally the rifle will be put up for sale on an auktion here in Sweden. I have no idea of the value or what to expect from an auktion. Should this rifle be sold in the States in stead?
 

No different here: government bureaucrats (sorry, I meant “public servants,” so-called) have sinecures for life, so why should they distress themselves over the problems of a mere citizen? 

This rifle would be commonplace in this country, so I’d guess it would be worth more anywhere in Europe.

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I wondered if perhaps the rifle was originally equipped with double-set triggers and the rear trigger has either been replaced or broken?  I agree with Bert – I see no advantage to trying to get it over here to sell it.  

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The sling eyes look correct.  Might be worth getting a Winchester Letter.  At least check it out.  Early a take down.  RDB

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steve004 said
I wondered if perhaps the rifle was originally equipped with double-set triggers and the rear trigger has either been replaced or broken?    

You’re right–it still has the close-coupled DS adjustment screw.  But why would the original setting trigger ever need replacement?

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rogertherelic said
The sling eyes look correct.  Might be worth getting a Winchester Letter.  At least check it out.  Early a take down.  RDB  

Worth the monetary gamble for the letter, I think.  .25-35 WCF was introduced in 1895, & became quite popular in Europe.  That brl. looks like it “belongs” with the gun.

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Looks like a DST assembly, its anyone’s guess what happened to the trigger, whether was broke or lost.  Someone fabricated something that evidently worked. 

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