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Recently examined a 38/55 with a 24 inch round barrel. Everything else on gun looks standard with the exception of sling eyes in butt and forend cap that appear factory. Distance from muzzle to front sight dovetail and mag hanger pin is correct. First 24 inch 94 I’ve seen most have been 22 and a few 20 inches. Anyone have any numbers concerning 24 inch model 1894’s?

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Per the ARMAX survey;

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Keep in mind that the ARMAX survey only includes the first 353999 Model 1894s manufactured. 

My survey of serial numbers 354000 – 1079689 is as shown in the table below;

Surveyed Barrel Lengths
Length Rifles Carbines Total
14″ 1 21 22
15″ 0 334 334
16″ 6 35 42
18″ 3 12 15
19″ 2 0 2
20″ 151 5,001 5,152
21″ 3 0 3
21.75″ 0 20 20
22″ 153 0 153
24″ 100 0 100
26″ 3,511 0 3,511
28″ 6 0 6
30″ 4 0 4
36″ 1 0 1
~? 133 56 189
Total 4,073 5,479 9,553

 

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Thanks very much, Bert. This one is above the letterable range so fairly scarce. If I get it will post pics and serial number for your records.

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Mike,

Based on the raw numbers in my survey of the non letterable Model 1894s, the extrapolated number of 24-inch barrels comes out to 7,475.

Consider this;

There are a total of 725,690 Model 1894s in my survey range (May 1907 to December 1931).
I have surveyed (documented) 9,553 of that number (or 1.3%)
Of the 9,553 surveyed, 99 of them have a 24-inch barrel (or 1.03 %)

So, here is the math;

99 / 9,553 = 0.0103

0.0103% x 725,690 = 7,474.6 (which I rounded up to 7,475)

If my survey results & math are reasonably accurate, the total number of 24-inch Model 1894s would be something very close to 9,136. Certainly not rare, but “uncommon” would aptly describe them.

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Here’s another plus I have a couple more20230629_203756.jpgImage Enlarger20230629_203804.jpgImage Enlarger

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Got it yesterday. Serial number 677794, 38/55, not nickel steel barrel which is normal, I think. 24 inch barrel, full mag, rifle butt. Amazing how losing 2 inches improves balance and handling. Think its a keeper. Will post pics when I get a chance.

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mike webb said
Got it yesterday. Serial number 677794, 38/55, not nickel steel barrel which is normal, I think. 24 inch barrel, full mag, rifle butt. Amazing how losing 2 inches improves balance and handling. Think its a keeper. Will post pics when I get a chance.

  

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When you get the chance, please send me pictures of the your newest “old” Winchester.

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Just took a few quick pics. Sling swivels unfortunately are not factory but good condition for 109 years old. Small bruise behind tang which suggests it wore a tang peep at one time. Rear sight is replacement Marbles carbine sight. Bore is superb which in my experience doesn’t happen much with 38/55 rifles. Outside of the receiver blue is good, barrel and mag especially. May be too technologically retarded to post pics. Can I send them to your email, Bert?

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mike webb said
Just took a few quick pics.  May be too technologically retarded to post pics. Can I send them to your email, Bert?  

Certainly!  That stated, I can help you learn how to post your pictures if you so desire.

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Thanks Bert but I am only a guest and I think the procedure to insert pics directly from your PC is only available to members. If you could post your email or perhaps PM it to me if you are not comfortable putting your info out there.

Thank you, Mike

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mike webb said
Thanks Bert but I am only a guest and I think the procedure to insert pics directly from your PC is only available to members. If you could post your email or perhaps PM it to me if you are not comfortable putting your info out there.

Thank you, Mike

  

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Thanks Bert. I was a member but retirement and subsequent poverty set in. You are correct though, small price to pay for entertainment and information. I will rejoin shortly. Will email pics to you for now.

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Mike,

Here are your pictures (slightly edited and cropped).

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Thank you. Sounds like a fair exchange.

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