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I have a 1894 Rifle, 32-40 with an octagon barrel that was shortened sometime prior to the early 1940’s. I have a Cody letter stating serial # applied December 6, 1897. Received warehouse December 14, 1897 and Shipped from warehouse August 5, 1898. I’m assuming the production date is Aug. 5, 1898? Other than clarification on production date I would like to know if replacing the barrel with a date correct 26″ barrel would devalue the gun more than the shortened original barrel. I know the shortened barrel has devalued the rifle already. It’s hanging on my wall now and I have no immediate plans of selling. Thanks.[Image Can Not Be Found]
WyCowboy said
I have a 1894 Rifle, 32-40 with an octagon barrel that was shortened sometime prior to the early 1940’s. I have a Cody letter stating serial # applied December 6, 1897. Received warehouse December 14, 1897 and Shipped from warehouse August 5, 1898. I’m assuming the production date is Aug. 5, 1898? Other than clarification on production date I would like to know if replacing the barrel with a date correct 26″ barrel would devalue the gun more than the shortened original barrel. I know the shortened barrel has devalued the rifle already. It’s hanging on my wall now and I have no immediate plans of selling. Thanks.[Image Can Not Be Found]
The production date is the date the serial number was applied.
The best thing you can do collector wise is if you can find a original barrel. Its not like putting a repo barrel on it. It sounds like you have time on your hands so just watch GunBroker and Ebay and someday you will get lucky.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Hi,
Call Albert Buckingham at 731 559-4169. He may have what you need.
Walter
Be sure that when you do find an original barrel that the barrel markings match those for the date of manufacture of your rifle along with the correct barrel shape, length, and caliber. Also make sure that the barrel condition (amount of blue, wear, and tear) will match the existing condition of the rest of your gun. A brand new barrel on a lesser condition frame and magazine tube will stand out as much as that shortened barrel that is currently on it.
Chris.
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
Thanks everyone for your help. Was 9 months in the warehouse for a rifle that was not special order typical for that time. Seems sort of slow. Maybe the order number included a large amount of rifles and mine was part of a larger order?
January 26, 2011
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WyCowboy said
Thanks everyone for your help. Was 9 months in the warehouse for a rifle that was not special order typical for that time. Seems sort of slow. Maybe the order number included a large amount of rifles and mine was part of a larger order?
You will find that the standard guns with no options sat longer in the warehouse. The special order guns were picked up or shipped right away as someone was anxiously waiting for their order. That being said, nine months is a little out of the ordinary but not that uncommon. Its usually more like a few weeks to a month between the dates.
~Gary~
Winchester did make runs of guns and then they sat in the warehouse and were sent out as needed. Most of your special order guns shipped out the next day. There are guns that spent a lot more time in the warehouse, years in fact.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
wallyb said
Hi,Call Albert Buckingham at 731 559-4169. He may have what you need.
Walter
Someone called and told me that Albert passed away a week or two ago.
That is so sad. Albert and George Madis were the Winchester guys of the day. Albert was quite a character and I enjoyed doing business with him.
Walter
I last spoke to Albert in February or March of this year. I wanted to buy a part from him and he tried to sell me his collection of High Walls. I believe he was in his mid to late 80’s and the clarity of his mind was incredible. Having lost parents to stroke and Alzheimer’s in their mid to late ’70’s I can really appreciate Albert’s keen mind. I can only aspire to equaling his state of mind, if I make it that long.
R.I.P. Albert.
"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
I found this when I looked for more info
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shelton-Funeral-Home/164881153537631
I meet up with Albert, at the Houston show in june 91.He invited me back to his home in Brazil Tn, for a week.
It was my first trip to the States, and staying with the Buckingham family really topped it off.
A wonderful family.His collection of winchesters even 25 years ago was mind blowing. I have some great memory’s of one of Tennessee’s finest gentleman.
RIP my friend.
Tony
Australia
Wincacher said
I last spoke to Albert in February or March of this year. I wanted to buy a part from him and he tried to sell me his collection of High Walls. I believe he was in his mid to late 80’s and the clarity of his mind was incredible. Having lost parents to stroke and Alzheimer’s in their mid to late ’70’s I can really appreciate Albert’s keen mind. I can only aspire to equaling his state of mind, if I make it that long.R.I.P. Albert.
According to his obituary, Albert was 78-years old,
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/albert-buckingham-obituary?pid=1000000180383123
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Sorry to hear about Albert. I dealt with him for over thirty years beginning in the early 70’s. Haven’t talked to him in the last 10 years, or so. If you ever talked to him much on the phone, you’ll never forget him.
RIP Albert
Yep he was one of a kind.After a couple of days he said you wanna see some winchesters, of course I do.Well that room in the back yard was something else, wall to wall.after an hour or so, he said wanna shoot one, hell yeah. which one , he said any one you like. So thinking ill never get to shoot, what took my fancy on the wall , I said how bout one of those Henry’s , i think there was 10 or so.No problem,how bout the lowest number
.cant remember the number but was a brass frame with 3 digits.5 shots into a target he had I think of a tin duck on the back fence.
I still have the photo’s but I cant upload to the site.
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