CJS57 said
Bert, What is the JPP marking? Is there a letter or some documentation about his barrel cutting activities at Winchester? Is it also possible that the 22″ barrel is the original length but was not recorded in the ledgers? The barrel looks tapered as well as octagon to me. Seems like a muzzle diameter measurement would determine if it was cut down.  

James Parker was Winchester’s go to man for any barrel rework, and he marked the barrels with his initials.  Over the years, I have seen several dozen barrels that were shortened or rebored with his initials and the work order number.  The only documentation is the R&R entry in the ledger records, with the corresponding order number.

Yes, it is possible (but unlikely) that the barrel was originally 22-inches long.

Bert

podufa said
Didn’t Winchester have other gunsmiths besides J.P.Parker?

Where did you find his first name?All I have ever seen is J.P.Parker or more common J.P.P.  

Yes they undoubtedly did, but James P. Parker was apparently their go to person for barrel rework.  Russell Leander “Russ” was the go to person for factory rework on existing unsold warehouse stock.

I do not remember the specific source were I found his name, but I have read it (and recorded it in my research notes).  Over the past 25+ years, I have read/researched hundreds of books and documents (at the McCracken Research Library in Cody).  I record handwritten notes in my notebook (that is with me nearly everywhere I go), then eventually transcribe most of them to my computer database.  Much of my older recorded data/information does not have the specific “where & when” recorded.  In the past 10-12 years or so, I have been more diligent about noting those types of details.

Bert

podufa said
Thanks

I have never seen a Cody letter with his name for R&R. I have one with “sent to Russ”.I have a rifle with “rebore” and J.P.P. But no mention in the letter.  

I haven’t ever seen a CFM factory letter, or even a single ledger record entry with “J.P.P.” mentioned either.  All that you will usually find is the “R&R” entry, with a date and a work order #.  On the guns I have found with the “J.P.P.” marking, there is also a work order number stamped near the initials, and frequently, a stamped “REBORE”, or “REFINISH” marking.  On the barrels that he shortened, it may only have his initials and the work order #.  Very very seldom does the ledger record entry ever mention what specific work was done to the rifle.  Below is a typical marking found with the “J.P.P.”

Bert

brokenshoes said
I just found this interesting post.  Here is a question.   Would a  ” j. p. p.  refinish” stamp on a factory shortened rifle add or detract from the value of the rifle?  Would the rifle be worth more in its original configuration even though it was shortened and marked in the factory?  

The “J.P.P.” marking in my opinion is not ever going to increase the value of the gun.  However (and again in my opinion), it is not going to reduce the value either as long as the work order stamped on the barrel matches the work order number listed in the R&R entry in the factory ledger record.

Bert

Just for fun, I dug through my photo files, and here is another “J.P.P.” marked Winchester (this time on a Model 1894).

Bert