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1894-94’s unusual Serial Number
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53DD3DF8-A89B-418B-8564-853E1EF35DA0.jpegImage Enlarger1956 run of the mill .32 spec Carbine . Thing is after the 21xxxxx serial number is a large “ X “ same spacing basic height etc of the numbers . The depth of the strike , blue in the bottom on “ X” and subtle wear around the raised displaced metal suggests factory applied . I have never in a lot of years seen this . A search on other forums suggests a duplicate serial number caught in production and the “ X “ was applied ????? Comments ? 
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Winchester marked the post WW II production guns with the “X” suffix when an accidental duplicate serial number occurred.  Thus far, I have encountered (surveyed) a total of (57) Model 94s with duplicate serial numbers.  One of the (57) has “XX” indicating it was a triplicate serial number.   The “X stamp was used on many different models.

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Model 71 duplicate serial number:

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Model 43 duplicate serial numbers;

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Well ,  thank you very much . Again a poor day I don’t learn something . Appreciate the reply !

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Greetings Bert: 

Am wondering if the “X” suffix would add any “rarity” value when negotiating a sales price? 

 

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OW1892 said
Greetings Bert: 

Am wondering if the “X” suffix would add any “rarity” value when negotiating a sales price? 

 

TIA   

I wouldn’t pay more for one. 

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OW1892 said
Greetings Bert: 

Am wondering if the “X” suffix would add any “rarity” value when negotiating a sales price? 

 

TIA   

Not in my opinion.  Based on the fact that I have thus far found nearly (60) of them in just the Model 94, I would not classify them as “rare”… the term “uncommon” would be more appropriate.

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Now if you had both rifles with the duplicated serial number (the one with the “X” and the one without), I would pay a bit of a premium.  But that follows the same logic for consecutive serial numbered guns.

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Bert,  since I didn’t remember that I sent mine to you way back when,  I took this pic to include in your list and realized you showed it in the post.

This recent pic is a bit better than the earlier one so since it is done if you want to replace your old file with it here it is.

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Bert,  since I didn’t remember that I sent mine to you way back when,  I took this pic to include in your list and realized you showed it in the post.

This recent pic is a bit better than the earlier one so since it is done if you want to replace your old file with it here it is.

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Thanks… I have replaced the older picture with this one.

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I have a model 1894 LL06953…. Can anyone help me with the year

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I have a model 1894 LL06953…. Can anyone help me with the year

  

I believe that you have one too many digits listed in the serial number.  It should be 6-digits long.

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Unless it s a Legendary Lawman Commemorative, with the LL prefix then it would be 1978 manufacture

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If as Bert suggests there is an extra digit the “1” may look like an “L”. A commemorative as Henry suggests could have five digits following “LL”. Perhaps you could tell us about the other markings on your Winchester, Josh.

 

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Bert H. said rnWinchester marked the post WW II production guns with the “X” suffix when an accidental duplicate serial number occurred.  Thus far, I have encountered (surveyed) a total of (57) Model 94s with duplicate serial numbers.  One of the (57) has “XX” indicating it was a triplicate serial number.   The “X stamp was used on many different models.rnrnModel 94 duplicate serial numbers;rnrnrnrnModel 71 duplicate serial number:rnrnrnrnModel 43 duplicate serial numbers;rnrnrn  rnThank you for the info! this sight is a wealth of Winchester knowledge. We just got a Model 12 with an (X) serial. We’re in Bremerton (gorst) if Mr. Bert H would like to com have a look  

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Bert H. said rnWinchester marked the post WW II production guns with the “X” suffix when an accidental duplicate serial number occurred.  Thus far, I have encountered (surveyed) a total of (57) Model 94s with duplicate serial numbers.  One of the (57) has “XX” indicating it was a triplicate serial number.   The “X stamp was used on many different models.rnrnModel 94 duplicate serial numbers;rnrnrnrnModel 71 duplicate serial number:rnrnrnrnModel 43 duplicate serial numbers;rnrnrn  rnThank you for the info! this sight is a wealth of Winchester knowledge. We just got a Model 12 with an (X) serial. We’re in Bremerton (gorst) if Mr. Bert H would like to com have a look  

  

I may just stop in and do that!

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