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1894 short rifle
February 23, 2013
6:41 pm
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I bought a 1894 rifle serial #127977. It has the octagon barrel and is in 32-40. I’m guessing the date at 1902 or so. My question is, the rifle is proof stamped on both the barrel and receiver and I thought proofs did not appear until around the 290,000 or so range. Any comments ideas?

February 23, 2013
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I have found in the past when I looked up early guns with the WP they had repair and returns in the factory records. Circle P might be another story.

Also I guess it would have the slight chance of an early serial # and a late shipping date by several years. Checking the records would be a start. Email me some pics if you want.



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February 23, 2013
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Serial number 127977 (late 1901) is several years too early for proof marks. In my on going researh survey, Model 1894 serial number 260389 is the highest serial number I have found without proof marks. The next highest serial number I have in the survey is 264188, and it has proof mark stamps. All other serial numbers that I have found above that point have proof marks on them. Serial number 264188 went through the PR in April of 1905.


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February 24, 2013
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It was likely returned to the factory for rework, perhaps the short barrel? And proofed at that time. Post pictures of the muzzle crown and dovetail cuts please!

February 24, 2013
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I would also ask that you post or send me photos of the barrel address and caliber stamp. These may be of a different style than was used when the rifle was originally manufactured if the barrel was switched.




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