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Found a half round 1894 on Guns International number 100404014. Is this barrel original? I believe this configuration is pretty unusual and obviously wondered if this barrel has be doctored with.
January 26, 2011
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It looks to be correct to me, and in nice condition. The price seems like its in the ballpark, maybe a tad high for me. Although a bit ugly, I kind of like the special 32ws sight since its unusual and specific to that caliber. I see quite a few of the 1894’s in this configuration. Its the Half octagons with full magazine that are more scarce. I own an 1894 s/n 86427 that is similar to this rifle, but in 30 wcf and has a pistol grip, "I" checkered stock.
It seemed the half octagon with button mag became popular between 1900-1910, but some others here may have seen different results in their travels.
Here’s a direct link to the rifle Steelside is asking about:
http://www.gunsinternational.com/detail.cfm?gun_id=100404014
~Gary~
Thanks pdog…yeh the full mags certainly are more attractive, well to me at least. This seemed a pretty good price just the same for something a little different. Thx again
I,m with pdog. The 1/2 octagons look better with the full mags. This 1/2 oct. is in the bit scarcer 38-55, shipped 10-17-1912 and is lettered. # 348731. Sat in the warehouse for 5 years. Paid a bit more, but I got a nicer and scarcer rifle. Big Larry
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I suppose it is all in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion, I do not like the look of a full mag with a 1/2 octagon. A full mag looks best with either a full round or a full octagon barrel. For a 1/2 octagon, my preference is a half mag. For me, the idea of a 1/2 octagon is to reduce weight and a half mag fits nicely into that objective. However, I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Practically speaking, I never fill a full mag up with cartridges when hunting.
Win38-55 said
I suppose it is all in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion, I do not like the look of a full mag with a 1/2 octagon. A full mag looks best with either a full round or a full octagon barrel. For a 1/2 octagon, my preference is a half mag. For me, the idea of a 1/2 octagon is to reduce weight and a half mag fits nicely into that objective. However, I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Practically speaking, I never fill a full mag up with cartridges when hunting.
Yes, 1/2 mags balance better, especially full of ammo. I was told that the 1/2 oct. bbls. are a little scarcer, and the full mags are NOT special order. I always thought they were. Anyway, all the full length rifles look good with full mags to me. I don’t care for the M55 look. I have but one 2/3 mag in my collection and it is a Eastern non saddle ring carbine from 1930. Do I think it looks better or handles better than a standard SRC? Absolutely not. A little scarcer perhaps, and I am no longer a hunter. I am a collector. Thanks, Big Larry
I picked up this 1894 HR/HO – TD in 32 Special a few weeks ago while on a business trip in Rogers MN (Cabelas)
I paid $750 and it is a very accurate rifle. Came with the sights. The tang sight is missing the smaller flip up peep. The front sight still has the ivory bead.
More pictures here:
http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/things-that-go-bang/1894-winchester-tak/
Love those Take Downs!
I Like the look of a full mag myself. I think that the reason they are not often seen with a half round barrel is that with the extra reduction in barrel diameter , the full length mag is pulled up unnaturally in a banana shape with the regular TD mag tube ring /hanger.
I recently acquired a 92 half round TD with full length mag , and at first didnt believe that Winchester would have offered this combo, as the mag tube is really forcing on the barrel. Twisting the mag tube off it is really binding and takes force to twist off. I took the hanger off to eliminate this force and the gun shoots accurately, and havent even tried it yet with hanger forcing , but will for curiosity to see if accuracy is impaired as much as I think it will be
Yes, I agree. Lot of rifle for the $$$$. We do get lucky at times. Big Larry
I’m with Win38-55. I like the half-octagon bbl. with the half, or button magazine. I’ve had 94’s and 86’s in that configuration. Even though the half-octagon with full mag. is scarcer, it just doesn’t appeal to me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
January 26, 2011
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Wow, I had no idea that there were any good deals on the antique guns at Cabelas. 😯 You did great.
I forget the name of that front sight, but its sure unique, I like it.
~Gary~
Cabellas screws up on occasion. NIB pre M14 S&W, box, tools, and papers, $500. Another, a biggie, a M45 S&W Post Office 22, with the extremely rare 6" bbl. went for like $600. Worth about 5 times more. Keep and eye on them. They really do not have "experts" that work for them. Big Larry
Big Larry said
They really do not have "experts" that work for them.
I would think this is true. I think they are paid just like anyone else in any retail profession, and, unless they get a commission on the final price as sold (this being dependent on what this retail salesperson or his/her colleague originally paid for said item), I would think there would be little incentive to ensure to always buy incredibly low or sell at top dollar.
I was in the local Cabela’s a few months ago, and never again. I thought any of the nice stuff was way overpriced, and the stuff not in the Gunroom on the racks was also way overpriced, and also junk — not of the quality seen in most local gun shops.
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