Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
1892 Winchester 44/40
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
New Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
May 10, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 10, 2024 - 4:23 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I am hoping someone can help with a problem I am having loading my 1892 44/40. This was found in a chicken coop completely  rusted and over the last couple of years I have cleaned it and got it working except for one thing. I can only breach load, Loading from the side port the rounds do not seem to fit through the loading gate.
Also the carrier assembly does not seem to go all the way down when cycling. It sticks up preventing the dust cover from moving at all. You can push it down and the dust over moves again but you can see it scrapes the carrier. I have taken it to two different armorers and the first said live with it, the second said he is not sure but thinks the carrier is wrong and thinks it might be from a 32/20. I don’t mind spending the money on parts but I have no idea if this will actually fix the issue. Any insight would be helpful

I have pictures but can’t seem to post 

sn 964225

thanks 

kt 

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2323
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 12, 2024 - 12:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Please send the images to me at [email protected] and I will be happy to post them.

Michael

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2323
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 12, 2024 - 5:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Here are your images.

image0.jpegImage Enlargerimage1.jpegImage Enlargerimage2.jpegImage Enlargerimage3.jpegImage Enlargerimage4.jpegImage Enlarger

 

 

Michael

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4344
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 12, 2024 - 5:26 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

When I first read this post, I thought perhaps the problem was internal rust and debris that needed a disassembly and good cleaning.  Now that I see the photos, I suspect this piece has been assembled from parts and these parts probably do not fit together well.  It looks like a gunsmith project to me.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2323
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 12, 2024 - 6:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Looking at the second image of the interior of the receiver it looks as if the carrier is not positioned correctly.  It appears to be angled and is not sitting flat and thus not allowing it to raise the cartridge into the chamber.

The wood and the barrel are obviously not original to the gun and the engraving is also not factory original.

Michael

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Avatar
Northern edge of the D/FW Metromess
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5189
Member Since:
November 7, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
May 12, 2024 - 7:11 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Numrich? Can’t say I’ve seen that before.

 

 

Mike

Life Member TSRA, Endowment Member NRA
BBHC Member, TGCA Member
Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe
I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call, Lonesome Dove
Some of my favorite recipes start out with a handful of depleted counterbalance devices.-TXGunNut
Presbyopia be damned, I'm going to shoot this thing! -TXGunNut
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4344
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
May 12, 2024 - 8:15 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

TXGunNut said
Numrich? Can’t say I’ve seen that before.

 

 

Mike

  

I remember when Numrich made .44-40 barrels specifically for the M1892.

Avatar
New Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
May 10, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
May 13, 2024 - 2:24 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Thank you Twobit for adding my pictures. I have had it to two gunsmiths and the last one said he thinks it’s the carrier. I thought the ammo tube was not original and the barrel bands. I know the engravings aren’t original but I like them, you should have seen my face when I uncovered them cleaning it. As far as the carrier since I have not been able to get a round into the ammo tube I have no idea if it will raise a round to the barrel.   Is it possible this is a 32-30 that someone put a 44-40 barrel on for some reason? When I look up the S/N it just says it was built in 1926 not the type. 

Avatar
Northern edge of the D/FW Metromess
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5189
Member Since:
November 7, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
May 13, 2024 - 2:27 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

In my opinion you’re still looking for the right gunsmith. That gun could be a lot of fun if you can find one to get it running.

 

Mike

Life Member TSRA, Endowment Member NRA
BBHC Member, TGCA Member
Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe
I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call, Lonesome Dove
Some of my favorite recipes start out with a handful of depleted counterbalance devices.-TXGunNut
Presbyopia be damned, I'm going to shoot this thing! -TXGunNut
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2323
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
May 13, 2024 - 6:29 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

The carrier for the 25-20 and 32 WCF rifles is concave upwards whereas for the 38 and 44 WCF rifles it has a flat surface.

Michael

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 778
Currently Online: Bert H., cj57, 28 gauge, wg1776, Gregory, Randycrockett
Guest(s) 86
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 6519
TXGunNut: 5189
Chuck: 4669
steve004: 4344
1873man: 4330
Big Larry: 2359
twobit: 2323
mrcvs: 1772
TR: 1731
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 17
Topics: 12923
Posts: 112675

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1791
Members: 8933
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation