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May 3, 2014 - 11:47 am
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I am trying to take down my 1892 in 25-20. I have very carefully unscrewed the lever on the mag tube at the muzzle and removed the magazine tube all the way and carefully put it aside…I have opened the lever fully as directed. I believe the barrel will rotate 90 degrees so that the top of the barrel will finish on the right side of the receiver..either way it aint budging. So I sprayed a little bit of Kroil along the join there.
This is one of my nicer rifles…Any suggestions?
I dont even like grabbing the fore end as tight as I have been trying to get the barrel to twist

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Apply some heat to the TD joint using a hand held hair dryer.

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Will do Bert. Ill let you know.

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Be patient and let the oil work. Spray some in around the chamber if you haven already. You being a steel guy Wink I’m sure you will apply the heat to the frame (RECEIVER) not the barrel section

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Just a couple of thoughts:

Are you turning the barrel off the correct way?

Is the mag tube complete ie.. Is the follower still in the mag tube? I I know dumb question, but I’ve seen it happen where the mag follower came out of a TD mag tube.

With the mag tube removed, open the action and look down the magazine channel, hopefully you see daylight.

Oil will help, not sure heat from a hair drier will help much, heat causes things to swell, it works great on screws when you heat the steel surrounding the screw, then chill the screw, but on a TD lug, it will heat the frame as well and make things tighter

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Thanks for those suggestions guys…still no luck. The mag tube came out as one, all clear in there. I will let the kroil work over night and try again tomorrow. I dont really want to, but would removing the fore end help so I can get a good hold of the barrel. Like I said I dont like the pressure I am putting on the fore as it is. I was a little worried I would loosen it up or even worse!!! May take it to a gunsmith or just leave it… Would just like to take it down so I can give it a good cleaning thats all..Thx again

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I’ve had a couple take downs that were stuck like that. After soaking with Kroil, I reluctantly used a small rubber mallet to tap on the lower right side of the takedown ring. Eventually they pop loose. Once apart, you can clean up the surfaces and threads, oil up the faces and it will function as it should.

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Taking off the forend certainly lessens the chances of damaging the forend, also keeps the forend from getting oil/kroil soaked. With the forend off you can now put a little more oil in the mag tube hole.
If you have a padded vise, try holding the barrel in that.
The TD lugs were hand fitted at the factory, I have also seen a few that were quite tight.

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Thanks again guys for your input, but still no luck…it won!!! Off to the gunsmith.

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How about a couple of taps with a soft face mallet at the bottom of the right side( loading port side ) on the forearm frame ? with lever opened, thats probably what the gun smith will do
Or loosening off on those 3 adjustment screws if they will budge

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I just had the same problem on a 94. I let it sit overnight with Kroil and took off the forend. The next day I put the receiver in a vise(protected with plastic iinsets). I took my old brass hammer and an old plastic credit card for protection and gave it 1 small tap on the takedown ring. It popped right a loose. Oiled it up and put it back together and she works great. It must have been 50 years since it had been apart. Not to make u worry but most gunsmith don’t appreciate the value of old Colts and Winchesters so after one bad experience I have refused to take ANYTHING to our local gunsmith. Fortunately I haven’t had anything that I couldn’t take care of. Good luck.

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Is that an circle stamp on the bottom flat? If it is, is there a P inside of it?
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