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New to me is a .22 Short Winder musket; serial # 1202xx puts it in the reported second variant block, though it seems to be a third variant–has the Lyman sight, low wall, non-drilled & tapped barrel. When was it likely produced–late 1917/early 1918?  And would it have originally had a forend stock with a retaining clip vice the transverse band screw?

 

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What is the complete serial number?  The transition between the 2nd variation and the 3rd variation Winder Muskets took place in the 119000 – 122100 serial range.  Production of the 3rd variation began in January 1918, and the forend stocks were retained with a spring-clip through April 1918.  The vast majority of the 3rd variation Winder Muskets were assembled with a transverse band screw.

Is your Winder Musket ordnance marked?  If it is not, does it have a Trap Door butt plate?

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Bert–appreciate the reply.  It is 120279 (I had overlooked your article’s mention that there was a fairly broad transition period between 2nd/3rd variant).  It does not have a trap door, and is US marked.  And the stock was shortened a few inches forward of the band (a Junior Rifle Corps cut I believe, from a post and picture I had previously seen).  Will post a picture or two once I figure out how.  Thanks again.

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JP_MA_3006 said
Bert–appreciate the reply.  It is 120279 (I had overlooked your article’s mention that there was a fairly broad transition period between 2nd/3rd variant).  It does not have a trap door, and is US marked.  And the stock was shortened a few inches forward of the band (a Junior Rifle Corps cut I believe, from a post and picture I had previously seen).  Will post a picture or two once I figure out how.  Thanks again.

Hmmm… very interesting.  I had previously documented s/n 120279 in my research survey as a non-ordnance marked 3rd variation Winder Musket, and with the chamber reamed out to shoot a 22 WMR cartridge.  

I will look forward to seeing the pictures.

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Thanks Bert, will double-check the last digits and send pictures when I get back in town–appreciate it!

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