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what ser# range should an open top ’73 be in
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27,000 range as SB said. This was during the Patent infringement period. That is also why first model 1876’s were open tops.
You can figure from 27000 to 28000
Bob
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OK I got 2 ’73’s here but I think one of them is a fraud the other one I think is legit the good one is ser#27427 and the other one #27722 I’ll get some pics on later , see if You guys can help Me out with a app. value
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Henry Mero said
OK I got 2 ’73’s here but I think one of them is a fraud the other one I think is legit the good one is ser#27427 and the other one #27722 I’ll get some pics on later , see if You guys can help Me out with a app. value
There is a possibility that they are both legit. Also in rare circumstance you will find where an open top was made into a 2nd Model by the factory in this serial range.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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I hope You can tell Me by these pics,
what I have here. I see the one has a pinned trigger and both have set triggers. What’s the app. value if legit as there is no reference to an open top in the red book
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Henry,
The pictures are not very good at all, i.e. bad lighting, blurred and bad angles. What we need is good clear pictures to see the top of the receivers to show the open top and the lower tang to see the serial numbers and how they fit the receiver. What I can tell you from the pictures provided is the metal and wood on both are refinished. The upper gun more than the lower one. The upper gun without the pin is going to be a earlier first model tang while the lower one is the second model transition tang.
Bob
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I know I have an awful time with pictures.
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To take good pictures of a gun you have to take pictures of one gun at a time and square up the the gun with the camera. You don’t want to shoot a picture at a angle since only one part of the gun is in focus. check your pictures for focus and blurring before uploading and retake them if they are bad. Lighting is the other problem people make is by using indoor lights that reflect harshly off one part of the gun causing bright spots making the other parts of the gun too dark to see detail. The best way is to take it outdoors and if its sunny go into the shade and place one gray cloth or on a unpainted wood surface.
Bob
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Bob I know these guns are redone, but does an open top bring a premium all things being equal. There can’t be a whole lot of them.
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No they are not many of them and they are worth more than a standard gun.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Henry, do as Bob says but try backing away from the gun just a little. All cameras have a certain minimum distance you need to be away from the object so they can focus. It may only take 6″ more to get clear pictures.
Maverick said
There is a possibility that they are both legit. Also in rare circumstance you will find where an open top was made into a 2nd Model by the factory in this serial range.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Is there a picture of one somewhere so we can see what it looks like? Does Jim Gordon show an example?
Gordons book should have pictures otherwise I have one. The factory did put covers on some of them.
Bob
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I use a tablet to take pics. Its raining here right now but I’ll try an’ get some decent ones in a bit. Are there any being advertised right now, that You know of, I’m trying to get an idea what I should be paying for these things.
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Here is one that is fairly original just no finish which is going to be normal for a open top.
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/1028-358/
Bob
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Open tops will have extra assemble numbers on the left side of both upper and lower tangs and a single digit stamped on the left side of the receiver just aft of the toggle link pin under the side plate.
Bob
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Ser#27427 has assy#530 on top and bottom tang plus 191 on bottom tang and butt plate, #3 on the recv’r under left plate. Ser#27722 has assy’ #432 top and bottom tang plus #768 on bottom tang stock and butt plate, #3on the rev’r left side under plate. I just don’t know if I want to buy them or not, I’ve never had an open top ’73.
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Just guessing at a value of them. The one that had more buffing could be worth $5500 the one that looks a little better is worth $6500. This is based on just a few pictures that I could see clearly.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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