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I had not checked the board for a while, but all I can say is Wow! I didn’t realize that asking for some information would rile everyone up so much. The gun is not going anywhere being as it was passed down through a few generations, so monetary value is a rather moot point. I didn’t create this to deceive anyone, and to have that implied does torque me a bit. I don’t know if it was shortened or left the factory at its current length. A ‘story’ gun? WTF? 😡 I do appreciate the helpful information that I received here, and say thank you.
Lexington,
I think that you may have misinterpreted the lively and spirited discussion that ensued. I also do not believe that anyone here was insinuating or suggesting that you were trying to deceive anyone.
I personally believe that the fact of the matter is that your question and rifle sparked a lot of interest and thought by the fellows who participated in this topic discussion. Many of us are very curious people, and trying to piece together the mystery your Winchester posed to us was both fun, and intriguing.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Lexington,I think that you may have misinterpreted the lively and spirited discussion that ensued. I also do not believe that anyone here was insinuating or suggesting that you were trying to deceive anyone.
I personally believe that the fact of the matter is that your question and rifle sparked a lot of interest and thought by the fellows who participated in this topic discussion. Many of us are very curious people, and trying to piece together the mystery your Winchester posed to us was both fun, and intriguing.
Bert
I’d like to echo Bert’s statement above. I don’t think anyone was insinuating anything towards yourself.
I’d also like to add the following. While some may not see this as a worthwhile venture or use of time, to those of us who may not have the knowledge or years of hands on experience of others available to guide us- many do (and I include myself in this) possess a real desire to learn as much as we can about these old Winchesters – and value all such discussions. Though I did not make comment, I followed this post closely and for the most part, enjoyed the discussion and especially what I learned. Being relatively young, and in a country where nice Winchesters and shows are limited, I look here for wisdom and guidance to assist me, and thank you folks for the same.
Matt
Lex,
Story gun, WTF?
To those of us with many years of experience, a "story" gun is one that has non-factory or otherwise unexplained irregularitys that needs some sort of "story" to explain. Often these stories are completely feasible, but more often they are totally hilarious and worthy of their own TV drama show. Like, "this gun used to be owned and was modified by so-and-so, but it’s completely original!" Modified and original in the same story – get it?
Not all stories are derogatory to the specimen but ALL without exception make the eventual disposal of the item to anyone other than a novice, a chore; especially when the modification does not involve enhanced cosmetics (not counting a refinish of course), I mean something like a monogram or engraving, etc., or a performance enhancement like a tuned action.
You have to not only sell the gun but you have to sell the "story" behind the anomaly as well.
To all that found this thread interesting – perhaps this is a little more valuable information for your "knowledge vault." I guess I should add a little blurb about this in future additions to my book – just for clarification – maybe a glossary of well-used terms.
Example – GB# 365242282 – This is a typical "story" gun. I believe the caliber designation is the European 25-35 equivalent.
OK, gotcha. I really do appreciate the information presented here, although I do find some of it somewhat hilarious. I guess the term ‘story’ gun just upset me, implying that I had cooked up a story. I didn’t realize that the context that you were using it in that it was a non-derogatory term. I know how collectors can be, although I’ve been collecting Kentuckys for 35+ years and never heard that term.
Just to save time, here is the link to above mentioned story gun.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=365242282
X1 with respect to Bob’s definition of "story gun". That term is widely used in the Winchester world, even up here North of 49. I heard it early on in my collecting from other old timer’s up here sharing some knowledge with me in what to look for and what to stay away from. Though a particular "story gun" may have appeal to you in one way or another, it is very easy to get stuck with them. You may be able to convince yourself a gun is "right", but always remember when the day comes you may wish or need to sell it, you have to be able to convince someone else as well.
Matt
Good enough. I had never heard the term and it sounded very demeaning. I now completely understand. Good term actually!
On an earlier response on this thread the term "story gun" got some jazz.
Check GB 369524916
This is a typical example of the term.
Take particular interest in that nothing is stated anywhere that is not "parsed" to be a clear indication of you bought it – you own it – I described it perfectly. It even has an "unspecified" return policy.
Later
B
BOBR94 said
On an earlier response on this thread the term "story gun" got some jazz.
Check GB 369524916
This is a typical example of the term.
Take particular interest in that nothing is stated anywhere that is not "parsed" to be a clear indication of you bought it – you own it – I described it perfectly. It even has an "unspecified" return policy.
Later
B
Bob,
Is this really the subject gun?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=369524916
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
During the 8 pages of this thread, there have been 2 different guns brought up that have nothing to do with the original post. These 2 guns are "story guns" and a whole new post could be started for this subject.
Paul
ps– A great story item is the coat that is up for auction that is claimed to belong to George A. Custer and was with him on that fateful day of June 25, 1876.
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/59/lid/3310
No Bert, this is just a recent example vis a vis my previous post on what a "story" gun is – it seemed like a perfect example of the genre as story guns are not limited as to provenance or manufacture. Sorry if I confused anyone.
It was the "example of the way a story gun is born" not meant to relate to Winchester in particular
B
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