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Bert H. said
Jeremy P said
Hey Bert, do you have sn156458 for my 1886?
JP
Yes we do have it… a standard Take Down 33 WCF rifle, 1/2 mag, HRSB.
Thanks for checking. Currently, we have 1,269 of the final 14,000 Model 1886s documented (9.06%). I also have the article for the WACA Collector magazine 99% complete and ready to publish.
Bert
Nice! Well I took the opportunity to take it apart anyways, glad I did, I knocked back some active rust at the takedown threads. Took a few pics I can PM if you want/need them…otherwise, what does HRSB stand for?
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Jeremy P said
Bert H. said
Jeremy P said
Hey Bert, do you have sn156458 for my 1886?
JP
Yes we do have it… a standard Take Down 33 WCF rifle, 1/2 mag, HRSB.
Thanks for checking. Currently, we have 1,269 of the final 14,000 Model 1886s documented (9.06%). I also have the article for the WACA Collector magazine 99% complete and ready to publish.
Bert
Nice! Well I took the opportunity to take it apart anyways, glad I did, I knocked back some active rust at the takedown threads. Took a few pics I can PM if you want/need them…otherwise, what does HRSB stand for?
Please send the pictures to my personal email – [email protected]
HRSB = Hard Rubber Shotgun Butt
The following is the Glossary table in the Model 1886 survey;
| Glossary | ||
| CCH | Case Color Hardened | |
| CSSB | Checkered Steel Shotgun Butt | |
| Eng | Engraved | |
| H-CS | H pattern checkering | |
| HRSB | Hard Rubber Shotgun Butt | |
| I-CS | I pattern checkering | |
| N.S. | Nickel Steel | |
| Oct | Octagon | |
| PL PG | Plain Pistol Grip | |
| P.S. | Proof Steel | |
| RRSB | Red Rub Shotgun Butt pad | |
| Rd | Round | |
| Set | Set trigger | |
| SF | Solid Frame | |
| SGB | Shotgun Butt | |
| S.S. | Stainless Steel | |
| SSSB | Smooth Steel Shotgun Butt | |
| TD | Take Down | |
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert-
Don’t know if you are still collecting info on late 1886s but here is one for your survey if you dont already have it : Serial no. 159945 it is a .33 Win, 1/2 mag take down Shotgun hard rubber butt . The bbl is Nickel Steel and has the MODEL 1886 roll stamp on the right side of the bbl
[email protected] said
Hi Bert-Don’t know if you are still collecting info on late 1886s but here is one for your survey if you dont already have it : Serial no. 159945 it is a .33 Win, 1/2 mag take down Shotgun hard rubber butt . The bbl is Nickel Steel and has the MODEL 1886 roll stamp on the right side of the bbl
That serial number was not yet documented. Is the lower tang marked with an “A” after the serial number?
Thanks,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Yes it does in fact have an A after it What is the highest serial number you have found so far ?
[email protected] said
Yes it does in fact have an A after it What is the highest serial number you have found so far ?
We have S/Ns 159956, 159957, 159991, 159992, & 159996 documented after your rifle.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert, my next magazine is hopefully coming soon, looking forward to the article! I had forgotten about it….
Jeremy P said
Bert, my next magazine is hopefully coming soon, looking forward to the article! I had forgotten about it….
Just in case you can’t wait, it is available online here on the WACA website.
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Bert H. said
Just in case you can’t wait, it is available online here on the WACA website.
Yeah I know, I just kind of like the old-school nature of reading a real magazine for once….I miss them in general!
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Jeremy P said
Bert H. said
Just in case you can’t wait, it is available online here on the WACA website.
Yeah I know, I just kind of like the old-school nature of reading a real magazine for once….I miss them in general!
Agreed, something about a hard copy and the great photos in our magazine. Bert and Mark put a lot of work into that article and it will be a reference for the 1886 collectors among us. Reminds me that I need to get set up to load and cast for the 33WCF.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Agreed, something about a hard copy and the great photos in our magazine. Bert and Mark put a lot of work into that article and it will be a reference for the 1886 collectors among us. Reminds me that I need to get set up to load and cast for the 33WCF.
Mike
Well, I know another local guy who has an extralight 1886 that would like a couple of those rounds! 
My only 1886 right now, but I’m on the lookout for a nice older one too, but what am I NOT on the lookout for really….
Bert-
Here are two more that likely are not in your survey yet that are late ones in my collection. Serial number 157576 it is an extra light take down .45-70 with a 22″ Nickel Steel bbl. no A after serial no. 1/2 mag hard rubber shotgun butt. Next one is serial number 158345 and it is a .33 Win. take down Nickel Steel bbl. Shotgun butt also no A in serial no.
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Bert-Here are two more that likely are not in your survey yet that are late ones in my collection. Serial number 157576 it is an extra light take down .45-70 with a 22″ Nickel Steel bbl. no A after serial no. 1/2 mag hard rubber shotgun butt. Next one is serial number 158345 and it is a .33 Win. take down Nickel Steel bbl. Shotgun butt also no A in serial no.
Thank very much! Yes, both rifles are new entries in the survey.
Your 45-70 ELW is most likely a 1927 production rifle. It is in a group of rifles with Stainless Steel barrels (157530, 157581, 157598, and 157730).
Can you please check the barrels dates on both of these rifles? It only requires a quick take down and an LED flashlight to see the 2-digit year number on the barrel.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert-
The 45-70 has a bbl date of 27 , the .33 is at our home in the North and I will check on that one at a later time for you
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Bert-The 45-70 has a bbl date of 27 , the .33 is at our home in the North and I will check on that one at a later time for you
Thanks for checking… I was dead on the money with the DOM for your ELW. I suspect the 33 WCF Take Down will be either 27 or maybe 28.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert:
The late smokeless era research on the 1886 rifle in the Collector was first rate.
Glad my rifles were of some help in the research . Please keep up the good work; it is appreciated.
Ridge Marriott
450 Fuller said
Bert:The late smokeless era research on the 1886 rifle in the Collector was first rate.
Glad my rifles were of some help in the research. Please keep up the good work; it is appreciated.
Ridge Marriott
Thanks,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert-
I was able to look at last at the .33 Model 86 s/n 158345 and the bbl date on that one is 24- Not what I expected it to be at all as late of a rifle as it is- I guess that they were using up parts on hand at this time . It looks all correct and original to me-
[email protected] said
Bert-I was able to look at last at the .33 Model 86 s/n 158345 and the bbl date on that one is 24- Not what I expected it to be at all as late of a rifle as it is- I guess that they were using up parts on hand at this time . It looks all correct and original to me-
Thanks,
Production of the Model 1886 was very slow (small quantities per year) after the year 1906.
Can you tell me which type marking is on the upper tang? I suspect it will be a Type 4.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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